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easyrider said:
I've been recording drums tonight. And messing with mic placements and stuff.

Straight into MIXBUS, as MIXBUS has its own EQ, Compressor, Leveller and limiter on each channel (just like a hardware console) its really easy to get a decent sound...next time its on offer get it...Its was $29 last week for MIXBUS 4.2

I just got a sound a liked clean. Then mixed the Overheads with the close mics...and applied a bit of EQ, some compression to the Bass drum and some compression to the snare...

Didn't use one plugin

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Well I might as well get my hands dirty with Studio One for now since I have it but Mixbus is definitely in the back of my mind. ;) What kind of overhead to close mic mix do you generally favour, do you have for instance more overhead level than the close mics or about 50/50?
 
Its not an exact science mate. I just mess about until I get something I start to like the sound of...I've finally got that nice tight tom sound...

https://soundcloud.com/easy-rider-91223276

Checkout these tracks...The top one is my kit all miked up. Recorded into MIXBUS tonight. (Ignore the crap playing, i'm randomly hitting things to gauge sounds etc...)

I'm slowly moving towards the sound in my head...

2 x Oktava Mk 012-01 as OH
1 x SM 57 snare
1 x SM 57 tom
1 X SM 57 floor tom
1 x Shure Beta 52A


The other two recordings were crudely done ages ago before I got all my drum mics...:)
 
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Nice. Your Mixbus recording is well balanced mate, nice and fat and punchy, especially the bass drum! I'd prefer more top end, the snare and toms sounds a bit veiled/woolly to my ears. But I guess you're going to be tweaking anyway. Is that you in the photo on the bike? :)
 
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Merlin5 said:
Nice. Your Mixbus recording is well balanced mate, nice and fat and punchy, especially the bass drum! I'd prefer more top end, the snare and toms sounds a bit veiled/woolly to my ears. But I guess you're going to be tweaking anyway. Is that you in the photo on the bike? :)
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Yeah you're right it was just the initial gut sound I liked. I'm going to be adding another mic a Rode NT1a and EQ some more and get a bit more crisp in it.
My goal first of was to avoid that tom tom boom and I wanted a nice punchy kick.

I'll be looking forward to moving towards a template I like so I can just fire up quickly. It will give me a good foundation for quicker workflow.

Me on the Bike? I wish I was a s cool :cool::o:p

P.S Have watched any produce like a pro videos on recording drums? Check warren out on youtube.:)
 
Actually yes, I have watched some of Warren Huart's videos, they're really interesting and I'll need to rewatch some. :)

He also did one where he interviewed one of my favourite drummers, Simon Phillips, about his studio.
https://youtu.be/eUnelkU8VLk

Everything you see in that video? Gone.

Tragically his LA house and studio just got burnt to the ground in the recent fires. He's fine though thank goodness.
 
Merlin5 said:
Actually yes, I have watched some of Warren Huart's videos, they're really interesting and I'll need to rewatch some. :)

He also did one where he interviewed one of my favourite drummers, Simon Phillips, about his studio.
https://youtu.be/eUnelkU8VLk

Everything you see in that video? Gone.

Tragically his LA house and studio just got burnt to the ground in the recent fires. He's fine though thank goodness.
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Feels a bit wrong tbh...there are families with nothing devasted in that fire...he would have been insured.

His net worth is 10 million.

https://www.gofundme.com/jwequ-life-rebuilding-fund
 
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I'm with Easyrider. How can someone bring themselves to beg for money when they have a net worth like that? Actually quite insulting. Can't believe people are actually donating, I'm sure there are far more needy causes on that site to donate to rather than to buy someone who can already afford it a house and a music studio.
 
Yeah, there's discussion about this on every drum forum and it doesn't sit comfortably with many drummers, including myself. Not sure if the 10 million is fact or not, but I'm sure he has enough that he shouldn't be asking for handouts. Anyway, his mate Pete Townsend could easily throw him 200k.
 
easyrider said:
@Merlin5 SSL drum strip just £10

http://store.solidstatelogic.com/catalog/31
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Thanks for that, looks useful, will look into it.

I've spent time setting up my gear and trying my hand at Studio One. Almost gave up today as I just wasn't getting it, too many things I didn't understand. However,
after playing around things started to make sense. I've uploaded a test recording of solo drums with no processing and a few seconds (with processing) testing with a song.
I don't think it's too bad but I've a long way to go. With the various effects plugins I found it easier to drag the lines around then using the knobs.

https://soundcloud.com/user-689462784/no-eq

https://soundcloud.com/user-689462784/test-mix-2

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Merlin5 said:
Thanks for that, looks useful, will look into it.

I've spent time setting up my gear and trying my hand at Studio One. Almost gave up today as I just wasn't getting it, too many things I didn't understand. However,
after playing around things started to make sense. I've uploaded a test recording of solo drums with no processing and a few seconds (with processing) testing with a song.
I don't think it's too bad but I've a long way to go. With the various effects plugins I found it easier to drag the lines around then using the knobs.

https://soundcloud.com/user-689462784/no-eq

https://soundcloud.com/user-689462784/test-with-mixing

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20171211_191256.jpg
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Recording drums is hard mate sounds good :)


https://m.soundcloud.com/easy-rider-91223276/drum-strip-mixbus
Revisit my link to soundcloud where I’ve got the same drum track but I’ve processed it with The SSL drumstrip.

I got more top end and pump for you :)
 
easyrider said:
Recording drums is hard mate sounds good :)


https://m.soundcloud.com/easy-rider-91223276/drum-strip-mixbus
Revisit my link to soundcloud where I’ve got the same drum track but I’ve processed it with The SSL drumstrip.

I got more top end and pump for you :)
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Nice, you did get loads more top end! Very crisp. Will definitely look into that strip. Yeah, recording is difficult. I don't think trevor horn has anything to worry about yet, I've a long road ahead, lol.
It's good fun though. Hopefully will make a proper recording this week with video. I ended up not using buses and just added plugins like Fat Channel and mixverb to each drum track, and soloed each track to make adjustments. :)
 
Merlin5 said:
Nice, you did get loads more top end! Very crisp. Will definitely look into that strip. Yeah, recording is difficult. I don't think trevor horn has anything to worry about yet, I've a long road ahead, lol.
It's good fun though. Hopefully will make a proper recording this week with video. I ended up not using buses and just added plugins like Fat Channel and mixverb to each drum track, and soloed each track to make adjustments. :)
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If you use a reverb bus then you can get more of a natural sound as the reverb will be the same for all drum mics .

You can also if you like control the amount via the aux sends

But do what you think is right for you . There are infinite ways to do things.

I tweaked individual drum tracks in mix bus with Mixbus built in channel strip compression etc then sent them all to one bus where I applied Abby Road plate reverb to bus, some bus eq,

Just one way of doing things

I’ll record some more tonight and post up I’ll be adding a Rode NT1 A room mic
 
I'm hopefully having vocal lessons in the new year, what would I need to record on my computer. I've ordered a behringer mic, mixer, stand and xml cable. I have a desktop pc with a stx soundcard outputting to MA bx2 speakers. Is there anything else I need?
 
darreny said:
I'm hopefully having vocal lessons in the new year, what would I need to record on my computer. I've ordered a behringer mic, mixer, stand and xml cable. I have a desktop pc with a stx soundcard outputting to MA bx2 speakers. Is there anything else I need?
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If it's just vocals, you might have been better off leaving out the mixer and getting an audio interface instead. rather than going through the mixer, then the soundcard, you can go straight to the soundcard (audio interface). Latency (delay between singing and hearing it will be better as well). Plus they tend to have better DACS than the soundcard you have. Also, the speakers you have are consumer speakers, they jazz up audio played through them. A pair of dedicated monitors would be better to get a true and natural reproduction of your voice.

To record your voice efficiently as well. you will also need a DAW (digital audio workstation). One of the advntages of the audio interface is that many come with a simple DAW included. Cubase Elements is a good one for vocalists. It's not feature packed but it's certainly enough to say, import an MP3 and record you singing along to it. DAW's will also include the necessary effects for your voice like reverb or echo. Also, you can get various plug ins targeted at vocalists, some of which can even be found for free online. These usually have many more diverse features and uses.
 
Thanks for the input, I will have a look into it. I'm mainly buying the items to get used to hearing my voice from speakers or a recording so I can see where I need improvement the most. It's not for laying vocals down on tracks so to speak.
Thought I'd ask in here as you all seem very knowledgeable
 
darreny said:
Thanks for the input, I will have a look into it. I'm mainly buying the items to get used to hearing my voice from speakers or a recording so I can see where I need improvement the most. It's not for laying vocals down on tracks so to speak.
Thought I'd ask in here as you all seem very knowledgeable
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If you can,send the mixer back,

Waste of money

Buy this instead

Audient ID4 Audio USB Interface.

 
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ShortWarning said:
Decided to do a cover of Gummy Bears (yes the classic children cartoon). I'm most of the way through mixing and have some ear fatigue I think. Any criticisms?

https://soundcloud.com/projectmay/gummie-bears-last-1/s-eZfON

Ta
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That is tremendous! I can never get my head completely around metal drums - they always sound too up in the mix (intentional, I know) - but they work well in this one and guitars and vox are great!

Have some of this, if you like.

Alone by SCM
 
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