** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

[easyrider]

If that's true I get my 1080 sooner

 

[tyler_jrb]

Yep I've been playing around with hardware for years...

Water cooling

Phase?

I know what I'm on about ...

Most of the time


When you get into high end gaming the smallest margins mean a lot...

Totally agree. Even for me at 1440 144hz. I'd like more power to max those settings and keep the frames high. 1080 SLI will certainly deliver that boost. When the 1080Ti comes out in a year I'll sell my 1080s and repeat. Cba with waiting a year and loosing yet more value on my Ti's. At least the 1080 will hold its value even when/if the 1080Ti is released.

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

You'll be waiting forever.

That's the trouble, i don't know what I'll even go to next, and gsync monitors are still quite pricey.. Still fairly comfortable with what i have for the moment though, i also don't want to go too high a resolution that will make me want to keep upgrading GPU's just to keep up, so 4k is out of the question for now at least.

 

[Digital X]

Regarding the pricing for AIB cards (what does it stand for..?)

Am I correct in thinking that the Founders 1080 AND Aftermarket cooler cards will be available on the 27th? And BOTH have the £620 (give or take) price tag?

This is going by that image above.

 

[easyrider]

Totally agree. Even for me at 1440 144hz. I'd like more power to max those settings and keep the frames high. 1080 SLI will certainly deliver that boost. When the 1080Ti comes out in a year I'll sell my 1080s and repeat. Cba with waiting a year and loosing yet more value on my Ti's. At least the 1080 will hold its value even when/if the 1080Ti is released.

People forget


The Titan X cost 1k

The 980ti was 549 plus

The 1080 beats them all and will be the same price as a 980 ti that offers faster performance lower power 2 ghz clocks and and 2gb more vram.

Progress right there.

 

[easyrider]

That's the trouble, i don't know what I'll even go to next, and gsync monitors are still quite pricey.. Still fairly comfortable with what i have for the moment though, i also don't want to go too high a resolution that will make me want to keep upgrading GPU's just to keep up, so 4k is out of the question for now at least.

I have no interest in 16:9 4K

Gsync 21.9 1440p is where it's at.

But of course this is just my opinion.

 

[humbug]

People forget


The Titan X cost 1k

The 980ti was 549 plus

The 1080 beats them all and will be the same price as a 980 ti that offers faster performance lower power 2 ghz clocks and and 2gb more vram.

Progress right there.

£70 more for 25% higher performance and questionable overclocking, infact a 1500Mhz 980TI matches it and overclocking on the 1080 is 10% and throttles.

Thats not progress at all, its not far from selling a pre overclocked card and calling it all new and fantastic.

 

[Mei]

Regarding the pricing for AIB cards (what does it stand for..?)

Am I correct in thinking that the Founders 1080 AND Aftermarket cooler cards will be available on the 27th? And BOTH have the £620 (give or take) price tag?

This is going by that image above.

AIB = add in board ....i think
no one knows the price of them yet, they usually vary wildly depending on design/clocks
apparently 27th for both yeh which would be nice! if they in stock is something else

 

[Digital X]

I read in the image that the MRSP of $100 would be staying, didn't know if that applied to both. but yeah we can wait.. painfully. lol.

 

[easyrider]

£70 more for 25% higher performance and questionable overclocking, infact a 1500Mhz 980TI matches it and overclocking on the 1080 is 10% and throttles.

Thats not progress at all, its not far from selling a pre overclocked card and calling it all new and fantastic.

Eh ?

 

[Safetytrousers]

£70 more for 25% higher performance and questionable overclocking, infact a 1500Mhz 980TI matches it and overclocking on the 1080 is 10% and throttles.

Most reviews seem to easily get about 2025MHz on the 1080.
That is a 16.85% increase.
And I can't get 1500MHz on my 980ti.

 

[easyrider]

I'll get mine and compare with my 980ti

Simples

 

[Mei]

I read in the image that the MRSP of $100 would be staying, didn't know if that applied to both. but yeah we can wait.. painfully. lol.

some AIB's will be cheaper some will be more expensive,
some/a lot will be pre-orders

evga/hof/gigabyte ones im looking forward to see

 

[drunkenmaster]

some AIB's will be cheaper some will be more expensive,
some/a lot will be pre-orders

evga/hof/gigabyte ones im looking forward to see

The pictures someone posted earlier in the thread of prices OCUK were listing at with only the reference 980ti in stock and all the AIB ones listed at something like £50 more but not in stock. A few days later and the price on all had gone up but pretty much equalised.

Once OCUK see people buy the reference cards at whatever they price them at, what reason do they have to price the 3rd party cards at anything but the same price? If they'll pay £650, why ask for £550 for the other cards, they'll just put them up at £650 till people stop buying.

We'll see what stock is like, prices might go up even further because we all know some people just can't help themselves and neither can OCUK. Hell this way Nvidia can say hey, we're selling them cheaper to AIBs, blame the AIBs or the retailers for the prices, not us.

 

[humbug]

Most reviews seem to easily get about 2025MHz on the 1080.
That is a 16.85% increase.
And I can't get 1500MHz on my 980ti.

And throttles to <1900Mhz.

 

[Safetytrousers]

And throttles to <1900Mhz.

''The 1080 hits its temperature target by dropping the GPU's clock rate. During a gaming loop, it falls all the way down to its base frequency...although we haven’t seen any partner boards yet, it’s probable that third-party coolers will give enthusiasts access to even more headroom, just as we’ve seen in generations past''
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-pascal,4572-11.html

But that article shows:

Where the default profile seems to take the 1080 into the temperature limit, but with the fan at 100% the temps are kept under 70 degrees.

 

[triss]

£70 more for 25% higher performance and questionable overclocking, infact a 1500Mhz 980TI matches it and overclocking on the 1080 is 10% and throttles.

Thats not progress at all, its not far from selling a pre overclocked card and calling it all new and fantastic.

How many reference 980 Ti's did 1500Mhz in pre launch reviews?

 

[humbug]

We will see, right now its sub 2.1Ghz and throttles to way below that once warmed up.
And...

Test performed by PCHG brought a simple conclusion; it is not temperature that is keeping GP104 from achieving higher clocks, but board power limit, which can’t be increased unless more power connectors are added. So I’m guessing we need to wait 10 more days to see what custom cards can deliver in this matter.

So it not the temperature.

Until we see good overclocks that also hold them it is what it is... but but but nothing. we don't even know yet if the GPU is capable of running 2.5Ghz.


http://videocardz.com/60151/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-tested-with-aftermarket-cooler

 

[Safetytrousers]

And throttles to <1900Mhz.

BUT but but but but 16.85% before any throttling, not 10% as you said.
And even if power is stopping it going above about 2025MHz then better cooling will prevent throttling.
True all we have at the moment to go on is the Founders Edition, but a lot of people will not be buying that and waiting to see what other versions transpire.

 

[Rroff]

We will see, right now its sub 2.1Ghz and throttles to way below that once warmed up.
And...



So it not the temperature.

Until we see good overclocks that also hold them it is what it is... but but but nothing. we don't even know yet if the GPU is capable of running 2.5Ghz.


http://videocardz.com/60151/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-tested-with-aftermarket-cooler

Tom mentioned in the stream that the highest they've seen on the FE cooler so far is 2.2GHz which matches up with my expectation - might get some cherry picked cards that manage a couple of hundred MHz more on decent aftermarket coolers/boards.

The FE seems to hold 2GHz fairly well if you ramp the fan up just not on the stock profile and you hit the power limit much above that - which gives some hope for AIB offerings.