Poll: *The Official PlayStation (PS5/PS5 Pro) Thread*

Will you be buying a PS5 Pro on release?

  • Yes

    Votes: 52 15.1%
  • No (not at £700 Lol)

    Votes: 198 57.6%
  • No (other)

    Votes: 77 22.4%
  • Pancake

    Votes: 17 4.9%

  • Total voters
    344
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Both MS and Sony are selling the SSD's to the public like its ground breaking tech because its going to reduced loading times.....Yeah that's great for the 1st gen games on those platforms, which will be basically higher res versions of current gen games. But as years go by and games get bigger, loading times will start to increase again.
 
But as years go by and games get bigger, loading times will start to increase again.

I don't see that happening. Game installs might start to get bigger but they can still break the game up into smaller loading parts. The amount of RAM won't change.
 
Both MS and Sony are selling the SSD's to the public like its ground breaking tech because its going to reduced loading times.....Yeah that's great for the 1st gen games on those platforms, which will be basically higher res versions of current gen games. But as years go by and games get bigger, loading times will start to increase again.

The Digital Foundry video on the PS5 was pretty good and did a much better job of explaining the potential benefits of the specs and tech. We're talking about some massive increases in storage speeds here that will likely lead to changes in how games are designed, not just shorter load screens.
 
The Digital Foundry video on the PS5 was pretty good and did a much better job of explaining the potential benefits of the specs and tech. We're talking about some massive increases in storage speeds here that will likely lead to changes in how games are designed, not just shorter load screens.
Someone who's actually paying attention...

Very interested in seeing this play out but it's certainly making waves. Sony seems to have bent over backwards to make this PS5 easy to develop for. Developers have even starting to talk about how's it can reduce the "crunch period"

Here's John from DF talking about the SSD
The craziest thing about PS5 is the speed of the SSD. 5.5 GB/s is just part of the story - there is a lot of custom silicon in there to ensure that the system isn't bottlenecked in other areas. It's *REALLY* fast on paper - a lot faster than Xbox Series X even.
 
Not at all. If you read what devs are saying then the PS5 is just as good as the XSX. Just going on teraflops means nothing.
Brand loyalty is a powerful thing. When somebody already knows which console they will get, it's amazing how they will often defy all logic to further convince themselves that they are making the right choice. If it was the PS5 that was ahead, most of the people saying Tflops mean nothing would be saying Tflops are everything.
 
Brand loyalty is a powerful thing. When somebody already knows which console they will get, it's amazing how they will often defy all logic to further convince themselves that they are making the right choice. If it was the PS5 that was ahead, most of the people saying Tflops mean nothing would be saying Tflops are everything.

Your username is quite apt, the PS5 really does have "DeliciousStorage"
 
Your username is quite apt, the PS5 really does have "DeliciousStorage"
:D

I have zero loyalty to either platform, to me PS5 just makes more sense as the Microsoft exclusives games can be played on my PC. To be honest even if I had no PC I would still pick PS5 as it has much better exclusives (for me).
 
The Digital Foundry video on the PS5 was pretty good and did a much better job of explaining the potential benefits of the specs and tech. We're talking about some massive increases in storage speeds here that will likely lead to changes in how games are designed, not just shorter load screens.

Quite curious how that can be true to the whole industry. This whole hype train (both for Microsoft and Sony's part), seem to resemble the one after an E3 launch demo of game X. :)
 
The Digital Foundry video on the PS5 was pretty good and did a much better job of explaining the potential benefits of the specs and tech. We're talking about some massive increases in storage speeds here that will likely lead to changes in how games are designed, not just shorter load screens.

It be very interesting how this plays out when it comes to game design. Because every console a developer wants to do XYZ but had to tone it down because the assets were too much for what the console can handle then it gets done on the PC in the end.

I'm going to take this as the Apple approach, let's talk big, use tech words to make it sound good but when it comes to job public. Its good for 5mins then it's forgotten as its not that much of a big deal.

Not like it was in the 90's going from 2D to full 3D, now that lead to changes in how games are designed.
 
Multiplatform Devs have also said the same and besides it's not as if they are talking about using the cloud!!!
Former Sony Dev: PS5 and Xbox Series X Power Difference Is Quite Shocking, Several Developers Say
“I’ve chatted to a few devs and they have confirmed the power difference is quite staggering”, ex-Sony developer Chris Grannell wrote. However they have said it doesn’t mean you can’t make good games on the PS5. These fanboys clearly don’t care about that and are massively rattled.”

Again, doesn't matter what an SSD can do, if they don't have the computational ability to unpack all that info, it can shunt 10gbps to the slower ram cpu and half the CUs in the GPU, it literally cant make up for any of that.
 
Quite curious how that can be true to the whole industry.

Again, watch the videos and see how much of a bottleneck mechanical storage has been, it might have been a PS5 presentation but it applies equally to MS too. Both have got some pretty impressive storage solutions now and it will likely help push games on all platforms, including PC, to better take advantage of those storage speeds rather than being designed for slower storage.
 
Former Sony Dev: PS5 and Xbox Series X Power Difference Is Quite Shocking, Several Developers Say
“I’ve chatted to a few devs and they have confirmed the power difference is quite staggering”, ex-Sony developer Chris Grannell wrote. However they have said it doesn’t mean you can’t make good games on the PS5. These fanboys clearly don’t care about that and are massively rattled.”

Again, doesn't matter what an SSD can do, if they don't have the computational ability to unpack all that info, it can shunt 10gbps to the slower ram cpu and half the CUs in the GPU, it literally cant make up for any of that.
They have been very specific on how this SSD can change gaming development.

Streaming assets they have no need to pack files then spend time and power seeking them and unpacking.
 
One thing the PS5 may have the upper hand in is the unified RAM pool at the same speed opposed to xbsx split pool at different speeds, this surely will mean more time for the third party devs tweaking things
 
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The thing is if PS5 is £350 and Xbox £500 not many people will care about the performance difference, like someone else has said Sony have left themselves space to release a PS5 Pro which is more powerful than the Xbox a few years down the line. Microsoft might release something new but even so market share will be firmly with Sony. Unless you have an 8K TV I don't think there's going to be much difference in practice, it's a bit of a waste having all of that extra power if you can't utilise it. Xbox One X does fine at 4K and look at its specs compared to next gen, the biggest problem with Xbox One X is its CPU.
 
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