Poll: *The Official PlayStation (PS5/PS5 Pro) Thread*

Will you be buying a PS5 Pro on release?

  • Yes

    Votes: 52 15.1%

  • No (not at £700 Lol)

    Votes: 198 57.6%

  • No (other)

    Votes: 77 22.4%

  • Pancake

    Votes: 17 4.9%
  • Total voters
    344
Sales would be massively down with a launch price that steep, especially with the current economic climate. Even £500 would put a lot of people off a day 1 purchase but I don't think that's too bad considering the hardware.
 
Given the 1tb high speed SSD and the hardware specs I wouldn't be surprised if the price is near £500. The PS4 Pro and Xbox X weren't far off that ~3 years ago. Guess it depends how much of a hit Sony/Microsoft are willing to take in order to win market share.

For interest here's what previous Playstation consoles have released at over the years which makes you realise what a cracking deal you'll be getting if the Playstation 5 is 'only' £500 :D

System Released U.S. price
PlayStation September 9, 1995 $299
PlayStation 2 October 26, 2000 $299
PlayStation 3 November 17, 2006 $499
PlayStation 4 November 15, 2013 $399
 
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I’m guessing it will be £429 the same I paid for my launch PS3. Tbh anything under £500 will be pretty good for what hardware is in them.
 
I don't understanding it from a logical point of view.

If a series X and PS5 can match potential performance of a 2080Ti (because lets face it the GPU grunt same equivalent PC/Console compares, the console will pull ahead and get more graphical quality for better performance than equivalent PC) then how on earth can 2080Ti not be 400 quid, as you're getting an entire console for 400-500.

This what makes me think that sort of power in a console the cost must skyrocket?
 
willhub said:
I don't understanding it from a logical point of view.

If a series X and PS5 can match potential performance of a 2080Ti (because lets face it the GPU grunt same equivalent PC/Console compares, the console will pull ahead and get more graphical quality for better performance than equivalent PC) then how on earth can 2080Ti not be 400 quid, as you're getting an entire console for 400-500.

This what makes me think that sort of power in a console the cost must skyrocket?
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  1. Consoles are sold at a loss
  2. Economies of scale mean the console manufacturers can get the components far cheaper
  3. The console manufacturers absorb the R&D costs
  4. You can't compare relative performance when questioning the costs, you need to compare equivalent raw metal performance
 
I guess it all depends what MS are planning to do with their pricing. They're probably wanting to take an early foothold at xmass due to the XB1 shipping only with Connect. Though i'm just guessing.

£500 or £600 either way seems fine. But parents will lightly have a cut off point at £500 or less i'd think.
 
silvagti said:
Also, if you're Nvidia why sell a 2080Ti for £400 when people are quite clearly willing to pay £1000+ for the fastest card ;)
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It ain’t the 2080Ti that will be £400. It is the RTX 3070 which will likely be similar performance to a 2080Ti.

I don’t get why people act all shocked and surprised at this. It has happened so many times. Where were you guys when the 1070 came out? It was near enough 980Ti performance and had extra 2GB RAM. Many like you

Also this argument about why sell it at x when people willing to pay x. If it worked that way we would never make any progress and would have either been on graphics cards that were no way near as powerful as today or cards of today’s performance that cost as much as a house to buy. However the reality is as we get better manufacturing processes that result in more transistors being packed in the same space and also improvements on architecture we get improvements on price for performance.
 
I get where your coming from and was mostly being flippant but there is an element of "if some customers are willing to pay x amount then why not create a product that costs that much". Hence why we have £1000+ high end video cards now whereas not so long ago a top end video card used to be priced at ~£400.

Consoles however historically have never been priced above £500 generally as that's typically regarded as the highest price mainstream consumers/gamers will tolerate.
 
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TNA said:
It ain’t the 2080Ti that will be £400. It is the RTX 3070 which will likely be similar performance to a 2080Ti.

Also this argument about why sell it at x when people willing to pay x. If it worked that way we would never make any progress and would have either been on graphics cards that were no way near as powerful as today or cards of today’s performance that cost as much as a house to buy. However the reality is as we get better manufacturing processes that result in more transistors being packed in the same space and also improvements on architecture we get improvements on price for performance.
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I would argue that the advances in graphics technology over the last 7 years have been negligible compared to the 15 years prior. It use to be that every new generation was a huge leap, and yet nowadays it's all incremental.........a result of a lack of competition in the market - Matrox, 3Dfx, Nvidia and ATI all use to try to outdo each other, and now there's only two left and it's all about matching the other so your current generation lasts as long as possible to get maximum returns........very similar to games consoles really (with their ever extending lifespans)!
 
willhub said:
I don't understanding it from a logical point of view.

If a series X and PS5 can match potential performance of a 2080Ti (because lets face it the GPU grunt same equivalent PC/Console compares, the console will pull ahead and get more graphical quality for better performance than equivalent PC) then how on earth can 2080Ti not be 400 quid, as you're getting an entire console for 400-500.

This what makes me think that sort of power in a console the cost must skyrocket?
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Xbox X series is 360mm2. PS5 APU would be even smaller, while 2080Ti is 754mm2. Over twice bigger than the Xbox. (3 times bigger than the 5700XT).
Also the Xbox is 56CU with 4 cut off to improve yields and lower costs (the failed ones).

And we know the bigger the die the more expensive to make because of higher failure rates and less of them can be made on the waffer.
 
Panos said:
Xbox X series is 360mm2. PS5 APU would be even smaller, while 2080Ti is 754mm2. Over twice bigger than the Xbox. (3 times bigger than the 5700XT).
Also the Xbox is 56CU with 4 cut off to improve yields and lower costs (the failed ones).

And we know the bigger the die the more expensive to make because of higher failure rates and less of them can be made on the waffer.
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But how can it be smaller but have the same power (at least in terms of TF)? Quite frankly though, look at the cost performance of a 2080 super vs the ti. It's purely being milked as amd have nothing to offer. Going from the 'normal'set versions to the super versions got a massive boost. Back on topic, I seem to remember the ps3 and 4 were equivalent to high end pcs on release, with the bonus of being a lot cheaper.
 
t@xman said:
I would argue that the advances in graphics technology over the last 7 years have been negligible compared to the 15 years prior. It use to be that every new generation was a huge leap, and yet nowadays it's all incremental.........a result of a lack of competition in the market - Matrox, 3Dfx, Nvidia and ATI all use to try to outdo each other, and now there's only two left and it's all about matching the other so your current generation lasts as long as possible to get maximum returns........very similar to games consoles really (with their ever extending lifespans)!
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I would agree with you. Does not invalidate what I said however.
 
silvagti said:
I get where your coming from and was mostly being flippant but there is an element of "if some customers are willing to pay x amount then why not create a product that costs that much". Hence why we have £1000+ high end video cards now whereas not so long ago a top end video card used to be priced at ~£400.

Consoles however historically have never been priced above £500 generally as that's typically regarded as the highest price mainstream consumers/gamers will tolerate.
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You are correct, parents especially will not pay more than x amount, anything over that £500 tag and either brand would surely see a major drop in potential sales.

Let's not forget that the Pro even though underpowered sold millions more than 1X, you could argue that it was because of the exclusives but when clueless parent or Grandma goes to buy a gift it isn't the quality of exclusives they are taking into consideration, it's cost.
 
I'd have a good guess at the PS5 being £499 on release.

Do we know if Freesync/GSync Monitors will work with these consoles at all? Would love if they did.
 
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