Poll: *The Official PlayStation (PS5/PS5 Pro) Thread*
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No, of course not.
However, Sony have supplied more PS5's than they had PS4's at this point post launch.
There is still a global pandemic in place along with a global shortage of computer chips.
Sony are doing what they can, and with independent research showing a "scalp rate" of around 5% - it is simply more people want the device than Sony can possibly produce.
It's like - what do you expect them to do?
How did this research work? I think the majority are been sold to bot's, and I dont think non scalpers are paying to use bot's (they not free).
As you said supply is matching what PS4 supply was, so the only logical explanation for the mass demand on every restock is scalpers.
Sony can do more, you think their responsibility should stop at manufacturing and distribution?
Sony can enforce retailers to use a central database to only match one order per card/address/person between them.
Sony can retail from their own website.
Sony can enforce pre order queues.
Sony can invite every ps4 account in eco system to buy a ps5, and refuse to stock retailers until there is no invites left to fulfill.
Sony can enforce retailers to preannounce restock's so people can plan and have a better chance instead of drops that are unpredictable.
Sony can put pressure on ebay and other similar sites to not allow scalped consoles to be sold on their sites.
Or as you said if you think they doing all they can, they can just stock retailers, and let it be the wild west.
My favourite for last.
Sony can enforce retailers, to ask for sony network id on purchase, if a id not on the retailer list tries to activate a console, it will be refused, this would make all scalpers stock worthless. People would need to register an account on sony's website if they dont already have one before purchasing.
No doubt is extra demand caused by the scarcity, but I dont think this explains there been so much demand that websites are crashing.
The main issue is the tiny order windows, I expect a lot of people wouldnt mind pre ordering and waiting months for their console, but none of the retailers are allowing it, you literally get a 5 minute window once every 2 months.
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I've only taken out these warranties once on my current amp, it still works. in fact, i don't recall anything broken for a while now. The last signigicant thing that broke was my Panasonic AV after 2 years. They tend to die in the first month or two (Xbox 360) or they go on for a decade.
Unless these are dropping like flies everywhere? What are the general experience on these? Are there reports of them breaking? As far as I know, the only thing is the stick difting? A new controller is like £50 so it'll be fine... I'll take my chances. Famous last words.
Screenshotted, will set a reminder to check in 1 year.
Nobody knows, they haven't been out long enough. Launch window consoles don't exactly have a glowing track record though, and £30 now to know that in 3 and a half years time if my console or controller dies it'll get immediately replaced by Amazon is a pretty good deal really. And that's coming from someone who, much like yourself, never usually takes out extended warranties or device-specific insurance.
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I suppose another way of putting it, what would happen if supermarkets announced they closing up but will be open for a 2 hour window once a month.
Complete chaos would ensue with everyone fighting for that 2 hour window, people would scalp food.
I honestly think if they stopped the tiny order windows, and just let "everyone" order, then it would all calm down, this situation is self inflicted at this point.
Complete chaos would ensue with everyone fighting for that 2 hour window, people would scalp food.
I honestly think if they stopped the tiny order windows, and just let "everyone" order, then it would all calm down, this situation is self inflicted at this point.
Much of this is unrealistic. Central databases, invite systems, requiring PSN accounts; it's all adding to the complication of just selling a piece of hardware, on which the profit margins for retailers will be minuscule anyway. I can understand the frustration, but the only way it's going to get better is as more stock enters the supply chain.
As long as we have tiny order windows, no amount of stock will fix it.
You could increase stock 10x, but if you only let people order for 5 minutes every 2 months, then it will end up on ebay.
The fix is to allow people to order a console around the clock.
Do you think my scenario of what would happen if supermarkets were only open 2 hours a month is wrong?
Also adding stock is a lot more unrealistic, there is no spare manufacturing capacity. Most of what I listed as options can be achieved with a bit of planning and work. Even more simpler allowing people to order 24/7/365 is as easy as it gets, you simply keep the order pages online.
In all honesty if a retailer isnt capable of doing any of those things they should not be supplied, these are very simple things to implement.
That's not how it works, demand is outstripping supply at the moment so people are rushing to order the limited amount of consoles available. The brief window of opportunity is because that's how quickly the allocations are lasting.
Yes, because if a supermarket runs out of an item they don't let you reserve it to collect in 3 months time when it comes back in stock. If it's gone, it's gone.
I've worked for two major UK retailers in the past, I can assure you that what you're proposing is neither simple nor cost-effective. If it was, at least one of them would've done it by now.
You have to be realistic here, you're proposing a bespoke system and database that requires all retailers selling PS5s to integrate with their own ordering/POS systems, all so people can buy a games console. Even the queuing/DDoS systems that retailers like Currys have been using will be eating into their already-thin margins on these things.
Except that comparison isn't correct. These places are still selling other things, they aren't shutting shop.
When in demand items have been sold in shops you would get massive queues, lots of chaos and said item would sell out very quickly.
It is yes and no.
A retailer can open up pre orders, add a disclaimer along the lines of "We will fulfil this order within 24 months, you can cancel but we will charge a £20 fee for cancellation"
If they did that, that would satisfy in my opinion comfortable double digits % of demand. People like me and Raymond would not be then fighting the people on instant delivery drops or buying from scalpers, which in turn reduces the chaos for those, its basic common sense really.
There is no increase levels of manufacturing coming for the foreseeable future, so relying on that to fix anything is nothing more then a dream.
I dont mind waiting, but I do mind having to fight to put in an order.
Amazon's drop today had a solid 10 minute error free period of being able to purchase the PlayStation 5. I posted in this thread the minute after the site began working and then 10 minutes later when it sold out. Amazon had errors adding to basket for about 5 minutes before it and the wish list "trick/tip" people post on various stock sites didn't work.
Some of you just aren't trying hard enough. A 10 minute window is plenty of time if you really wanted it. After the 10 minute window ended stock did come in and out for about 1 minute before being totally sold (8000 units reportedly).
The Digital one on the other hand was sold out in 2-3 minutes with 2000 allocated, that was obviously much harder to get but 10 minutes for the disc version really is no excuse if you wanted it bad enough. Coming in this thread hours later talking about how it was reportedly "so bad" that it wasn't worth the bother is a cheap excuse.
The only one I feel sorry for is Raymond as he literally missed it by seconds.
Some of you just aren't trying hard enough. A 10 minute window is plenty of time if you really wanted it. After the 10 minute window ended stock did come in and out for about 1 minute before being totally sold (8000 units reportedly).
The Digital one on the other hand was sold out in 2-3 minutes with 2000 allocated, that was obviously much harder to get but 10 minutes for the disc version really is no excuse if you wanted it bad enough. Coming in this thread hours later talking about how it was reportedly "so bad" that it wasn't worth the bother is a cheap excuse.
The only one I feel sorry for is Raymond as he literally missed it by seconds.
I don’t have a PS5 but regularly stream vis either a Series S or PS4 Pro. My setup consists of an Elgato HD60 Pro (PCI-e) going through OBS to either Twitch or YouTube.
Generally with streaming you are going to be more limited with your internet connection (upload specifically) and the platforms restrictions. Twitch for example will cap the resolution and bitrate to 720p 6Mbps (IIRC, may be slightly different on the bitrate) unless you are a partner. YouTube will go higher but you then run into bitrate being the limitation of you tried to push more than 1080p at 60FPS.
If you are looking to capture footage then you have far more flexibility assuming your pc has decent / recent specs. Nvidia’s NVenc (at least Pascal and especially Turing onwards) is great for encoding although the quality is slightly below that of H264 CPU encoding at the slower presets (in OBS at least). However it does away with needing a beefier cpu for said presets so is an excellent compromise. AMD do have AVC but quite honestly it is no where near as good as NVenc in terms of the actual output at the same bitrate.
You can also use the USB capture cards but I would recommend only getting one from a known / reputable brand to avoid issues. I know some of the cheap ones state 4K 60 etc but that is only for pass through. They are limited to 1080p30 for actual game capture.
I completely agree with you. It was well publicised that Amazon would drop today and with various alerts etc you can set it made the process very straight forward. Other websites just cannot handle the traffic but the process was fairly straight forward despite some initial issues.
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I was at my desk all morning, ah well....better luck next time i guess.
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