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You can't compare with that slide as it's Doom Eternal, a universally well known game for having the best optimisation possible and plus it's an arena shooter., it is an absolute outlier and no other game engine is as well optimised than it to this day

Post a slide that is more modern and you'll see where the tables turn.
 
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mrk said:
You can't compare with that slide as it's Doom Eternal, a universally well known game for having the best optimisation possible and plus it's an arena shooter., it is an absolute outlier and no other game engine is as well optimised than it to this day

Post a slide that is more modern and you'll see where the tables turn.
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Did you read anything i said? the performance loss in Doom Eternal is 39% on that slide, with the 2 Path Traced games removed the average performance loss for the HUB video was 35%, lower, the Doom Eternal run they did was a similar high 30's percent loss on AND, one of the worst for performance loss, in fact it along with serval other older games dragged the overall performance loss to that significantly vs Nvidia, 6 percentage points, as a matter of fact the newer games had a performance loss on RDNA 3 much closer to Nvidia, one or two of them actually less than Nvidia.

The point being that it looks like AMD, or at least RDNA 3 is more commonly optimised in RT now than it was in the past, you say Doom Eternal is one of the better games for AMD, in the past maybe it was, now, when compared with newer games its bad.
 
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I didn't say AMD, I said as a general outlier, it is super efficient, whether it's because it's due to being Vulkan is another matter.. Hell even a 3080 Ti was able to DLDSR Doom Eternal at well over 100fps, I know as that's what I was doping lol, and a 7800XT/X is supposed to be on par with that is it not for RT?
 
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I didn't say AMD, I said as a general outlier, it is super efficient, whether it's because it's due to being Vulkan is another matter.. Hell even a 3080 Ti was able to DLDSR Doom Eternal at well over 100fps, I know as that's what I was doping lol, and a 7800XT/X is supposed to be on par with that is it not for RT?
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Yes, i 100 FPS it full RT at 4K with the 7800 XT. NO UPSCALING :D

 
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I wish Vulkan would have been adopted more, seems way more efficient.
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It is...... Actually makes Star Citizen run like a well optimised smooth game, which it isn't not by a lol long way.

Its much easier to convert from DX11 to 12, also easier to work with, CIG have already spent 2 years building it in to their engine and still not fully implemented, that comes with 4.0 due late this year, we are testing it right now, the bit we are testing right now is the new jumpgates between systems, they still need work but are getting there, Server meshing is ready and we have tested higher player per instance caps, up to 2000 with future builds going way higher.

They relaxed the NDA a bit, i can show this, streamed it at the time, first successful jump.

 
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I wish Vulkan would have been adopted more, seems way more efficient.
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It has nothing to do with Vulkan, as should be obvious from all the other titles with Vulkan that run like crap.

At least for RT, in Doom Eternal's case it's simply a matter of limited application (and ofc the game itself has limited areas - it's an arena shooter after all). If you use cheat engine to modify the roughness at which the effect applies you'll see performance tank a lot more, very much in line with other games. You can try it yourself, I put instructions for how-to here a long time ago.

Doom Eternal Raytracing Benchmark Thread

Hey, been looking at Doom Eternal more lately and I've been thinking about how interesting the performance of the game can be especially if we let the raytracing stretch its legs, in particular allowing everything to have a reflective value. So let's check it out! Software Required: Capframex...
forums.overclockers.co.uk forums.overclockers.co.uk
 
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Poneros said:
It has nothing to do with Vulkan, as should be obvious from all the other titles with Vulkan that run like crap.

At least for RT, in Doom Eternal's case it's simply a matter of limited application (and ofc the game itself has limited areas - it's an arena shooter after all). If you use cheat engine to modify the roughness at which the effect applies you'll see performance tank a lot more, very much in line with other games. You can try it yourself, I put instructions for how-to here a long time ago.

Doom Eternal Raytracing Benchmark Thread

Hey, been looking at Doom Eternal more lately and I've been thinking about how interesting the performance of the game can be especially if we let the raytracing stretch its legs, in particular allowing everything to have a reflective value. So let's check it out! Software Required: Capframex...
forums.overclockers.co.uk forums.overclockers.co.uk
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Interesting stuff, nice one :)
 
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