**** The Official Samsung Galaxy Note 20/Ultra Thread ****

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A little of my Note history and mini ramble....

Currently on my 3rd Note series phone (4, 8 and currently the 9). The Note 4 was and still is an excellent phone, I had to resurrect one to help a friend out at the weekend and forgot how feature packed it was for a nearly 6 year old phone; wireless charging (optional), 1440p Super AMOLED, 16MP camera that could do 4k/30 HDR, headphone jack and a 3200 mAH removable battery. I also had a lot of fun, and struggle, installing different ROMs on it.

My Note 8 was also excellent though my main gripe was standby time, the SoT was pretty decent (4-6 hours average, up to 8 on a e.g. stay at home on a Saturday using WiFi).

Unfortunately I would say my Note 9 has been the weakest of the three. It's a very solid phone but a number of others phones have caught up and my particular phone has been a bit of bad apple (charging port broke, weird bugs, Samsung lag and possibly the worst SoT* I can remember especially for a phone like this).

*3-4 hours, standby time is good though as it will last until bed time but on the flip side, the battery has degraded quite badly.

I haven't ruled out getting a Note 20 but after 2 years with the N9 and Samsung's recent S20 release (I rate the base S20 as my wife has one but it does get quite warm, couple of issues with the camera and I don't have much hope for the battery @ 120Hz) - I worry it's going to be the epitome of an incremental update at an exorbitant price. Plus knowing Samsung, they will release god knows how many iterations of the phone and we'll get lumped with the Exynos version.

Any way, with that over I still enjoy speculating :D. Assumed specs are....
  • A more refined 120Hz display - likely allowing it to run at full resolution
  • I would imagine a >4,500 mAH battery
  • >45W fast charging (what is provided in the box may differ)
  • Fast wireless charging and reverse wireless charging
  • 8K @ 24p, 4K 120 would be lovely
  • Exynos 990 or SD 865
  • Supposedly they will improve the S-Pen features a lot to help differentiate it
GSMArena have just done a piece with a supposed leaked case...



I may still get one but I am keeping an eye on the OP8/Pro as likely much cheaper alternative. So anyone else considering the Note 20?



Galaxy Note20 Specs (4G/5G)
  • Body: Glass front, plastic back, aluminium frame, 161.6 x 75.2 x 8.3 mm, IP68 dust/water resistant (up to 1.5m for 30 mins), Mystic Green, Mystic Bronze, Mystic Gray colour options.
  • Display: Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 6.7 inches (~89.2% screen-to-body ratio), 1080 x 2400 pixels, 20:9 ratio (~393 ppi density), HDR10+, 60Hz@FHD refresh rate.
  • Primary cameras: 8K@24fps, 4K@30/60fps, 1080p@30/60/240fps, 720p@960fps, HDR10+, stereo sound rec., gyro-EIS & OIS. (1) - 12 MP, f/1.8, 26mm (wide), 1/1.76", 1.8µm, Dual Pixel PDAF, (2) - 64 MP, f/2.0, (telephoto), 1/1.72", 0.8µm, PDAF, OIS, 3x optical zoom, 30x hybrid zoom, (3) - 12 MP, f/2.2, 13mm (ultrawide), 1/2.55", 1.4µm, PDAF, Super Steady video.
  • Selfie camera: 10 MP, f/2.2, 26mm (wide), 1/3.2", 1.22µm, Dual Pixel PDAF, Dual video call, Auto-HDR, 4K@30/60fps, 1080p@30fps.
  • OS/Software: Android 10, One UI 2.1.
  • Chipsets: Qualcomm Snapdragon 865+ (US): Octa-core (2x2.73 GHz Mongoose M5 & 2x2.50 GHz Cortex-A76 & 4x2.0 GHz Cortex-A55), Adreno 650 GPU. Exynos 990 (Global): Octa-core (1x3.09 GHz Kryo 585 & 3x2.42 GHz Kryo 585 & 4x1.8 GHz Kryo 585), Mali-G77 MP11 GPU.
  • Memory: 8GB of RAM, 256GB of storage, no card slot, UFS 3.1.
  • Battery: 4,300mAh Li-Po (sealed), fast charging 45W, 50% in 30 min, USB Power Delivery 3.0, Fast Qi/PMA wireless charging 15W, Reverse wireless charging 9W.
  • Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/6, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot, Bluetooth
    5.1, A2DP, LE, aptX, Yes, with A-GPS, Samsung Pay (Visa, MasterCard certified) GLONASS, BDS, GALILEO, NFC, USB 3.2 Type-C 1.0 reversible connector, USB On-The-Go
  • Sound: Stereo speakers, almost certainly no 3.5mm jack.
  • S-Pen: 9ms latency (Bluetooth integration, accelerometer, gyro).
  • Misc: Fingerprint (under display, ultrasonic), accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, Samsung Wireless DeX (desktop experience support), Bixby natural language commands and dictation.
  • Price: ~€1,000 (256GB).

Galaxy Note20 Ultra Specs (4G/5G)
  • Body: Glass front (Gorilla Glass 7), glass back (Gorilla Glass 7), aluminium frame, 164.8 x 77.2 x 8.1 mm, IP68 dust/water resistant (up to 1.5m for 30 mins), Mystic Bronze, Mystic Black, Mystic White colour options.
  • Display: Dynamic AMOLED 2X capacitive touchscreen, 6.9 inches (~90.7% screen-to-body ratio), 1440 x 3200 pixels, 20:9 ratio (~508 ppi density), HDR10+, 120Hz@FHD/60Hz@QHD refresh rate.
  • Primary cameras: 8K@24fps, 4K@30/60fps, 1080p@30/60/240fps, 720p@960fps, HDR10+, stereo sound rec., gyro-EIS & OIS. (1) - 1108 MP, f/1.8, 26mm (wide), 1/1.33", 0.8µm, PDAF, Laser AF, OIS, (2) - 12 MP, f/3.0, 103mm (periscope telephoto), 1.0µm, PDAF, OIS, 5x optical zoom, 50x hybrid zoom, (3) - 12 MP, f/2.2, 13mm (ultrawide), 1/2.55", 1.4µm, PDAF, Super Steady video.
  • Selfie camera: 10 MP, f/2.2, 26mm (wide), 1/3.2", 1.22µm, Dual Pixel PDAF, Dual video call, Auto-HDR, 4K@30/60fps, 1080p@30fps.
  • OS/Software: Android 10, One UI 2.1.
  • Chipsets: Qualcomm Snapdragon 865+ (US): Octa-core (2x2.73 GHz Mongoose M5 & 2x2.50 GHz Cortex-A76 & 4x2.0 GHz Cortex-A55), Adreno 650 GPU. Exynos 990 (Global): Octa-core (1x3.09 GHz Kryo 585 & 3x2.42 GHz Kryo 585 & 4x1.8 GHz Kryo 585), Mali-G77 MP11 GPU.
  • Memory: 12GB of RAM, 256/512GB of storage, microSDXC slot, UFS 3.1.
  • Battery: 4,500mAh Li-Po (sealed), fast charging 45W, 50% in 30 min, USB Power Delivery 3.0, Fast Qi/PMA wireless charging 15W, Reverse wireless charging 9W.
  • Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/6, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot, Bluetooth
    5.1, A2DP, LE, aptX, Yes, with A-GPS, Samsung Pay (Visa, MasterCard certified) GLONASS, BDS, GALILEO, NFC, USB 3.2 Type-C 1.0 reversible connector, USB On-The-Go
  • Sound: Stereo speakers, almost certainly no 3.5mm jack.
  • S-Pen: 9ms latency (Bluetooth integration, accelerometer, gyro).
  • Misc: Fingerprint (under display, ultrasonic), accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, Samsung Wireless DeX (desktop experience support), Bixby natural language commands and dictation.
  • Price: ~€1,350 (256GB).
Source - GSMArena

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Well the p40pro turned up and the camera is excellent.
And for not having Google services I'd say 80-90% of apps work even if they say its not, and generally the part that is broke is GPS related so if like me you are always disable the GPS requests then :).

Only major down side at the moment no nfc payment option which could be the deal breaker or save me money hhmm?
Aaron has just done a 2 week later video. I must admit - not having Google Services looks less of a pain that I thought it would. Probably still a deal breaker for me but kudos. Don't suppose you side load any of your apps? I know YouTube doesn't work, dumb question alert, would YouTube Vanced also not work?

 
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Rumours suggesting the battery will start at 4,000 mAh - the same as my (approaching) 2 year old Note 9, though up from last years Note 10. Hardly exciting lol.
 
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Samsung Galaxy Note20's display to be capped at 60Hz refresh rate, only Note20+ gets 120Hz
Nice one Samsung, wonder how much they are going to charge for the base model that is seemingly worse than the base S20?
 
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I want this to be a success but every bone in my body is telling me it's going to be disappointing and expensive. Samsung need to pull something out of the bag with the camera.
 
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I am keen to see just how much cheaper the base Note20 will be, as you can get the S20+ for well under £1k.
  • 60Hz refresh rate
  • Metal frame but a plastic back
  • Exynos 990
  • 256GB of non-expandable storage
 
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And the likes of GSM Arena suggested it would be much cheaper than the Ultra. So we could have the double whammy of the base Note20 costing too much and the Ultra even more so. Nice one Samsung.
 
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£1000 for a plastic back, 60Hz/1080p screen, 128GB non-expandable storage - bravo Samsung.

The S9 had a higher resolution, the Note10 uses better Gorilla Glass, my Note 4 has expandable storage :p.
 
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What are the downgrades?
Lack of a memory card, Gorilla Glass 5 (Note20) compared to GG 6 (Note10), worse resolution screen, less RAM, only a 128GB option for the Note20 and slower fast charging.

I know it's not a direct apples vs apples but a future base Note phone shouldn't be this gimped and cost £1k IMO.
 
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Was ready to upgrade my Note 9 this generation, but whatever I get in the future isn't going to be Samsung. Struggle to see how any business could justify this practice of giving select markets a better device, but charging top prices everywhere, other than it meaning more cash in the shareholders pockets of course!
Same boat and completely agree. It's odd as I love getting the latest and greatest but now I have sorted my Note 9 - I am having a second renascence with it :p.
I'm just halfway through watching that. Ouch.
Hahaha - not watched yet, worth putting in the OP lol?
 
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