** The Official Space Flight Thread - The Space Station and Beyond **

godinman said:
Could be something like an engine failure and they activated the self destruct maybe.
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Elon has already eluded to a LOX leak in the main compartment. Also it is discussed in Scott's video, telemetry was lost well before the actual explosion/breakup. He seems to think self destruct. Elon mentioned fire suppression system for interior for next flight.
 
another impressive test; it really feels like we are within touching distance of large reusable space craft. If only NASA had been funded to do this over the last 2 decades
 
This wont effect future flights as I suspect Elons links with Trump will come into play, Elon gets to do what he wants and Trump gets something named after him and he takes credit for getting someone on the moon again or some other 'giant step' for his ego....
 
steve45 said:
Also Scott Manleys take. I noticed in the video that it seems Elon reckons this wont significantly impact future launch schedule. I'm less optimistic but hey lets see.
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No way the FAA even under Trump's control can allow another launch in a month. Numerous aircraft had to divert or fly in holding patterns to avoid the debris from this event.
 
mburn_83 said:
another impressive test; it really feels like we are within touching distance of large reusable space craft. If only NASA had been funded to do this over the last 2 decades
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Neither NASA or any other space company works like this, this is how space was done in the 50/60s, build, test, destroy. If NASA was having failures like this Congress would be having hearing after hearing and it would all grind to a halt.

Also I think we are a long way from any astronaut getting on a space ship with no emergency abort system. If anything goes wrong at launch to orbit they are all dead.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
Neither NASA or any other space company works like this, this is how space was done in the 50/60s, build, test, destroy. If NASA was having failures like this Congress would be having hearing after hearing and it would all grind to a halt.

Also I think we are a long way from any astronaut getting on a space ship with no emergency abort system. If anything goes wrong at launch to orbit they are all dead.
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I doubt Starship is intended as a manned launch vehicle anytime soon it's hugely over specced for LEO, I mean how often are you going to send 100+ people at once, and the intent of the design makes it impractical beyond LEO unless they build a booster stage. They have reliable and cheap manned launch capability already. Starship is going to transform the LEO economy by getting things there an order of magnitude cheaper than even Falcon9/Heavy. Each SLS engine is probably costing as much as a Starship or a Super Heavy Booster, break it fast has worked well so far but it's not for everyone.
 
PlacidCasual said:
I doubt Starship is intended as a manned launch vehicle anytime soon it's hugely over specced for LEO, I mean how often are you going to send 100+ people at once, and the intent of the design makes it impractical beyond LEO unless they build a booster stage. They have reliable and cheap manned launch capability already. Starship is going to transform the LEO economy by getting things there an order of magnitude cheaper than even Falcon9/Heavy. Each SLS engine is probably costing as much as a Starship or a Super Heavy Booster, break it fast has worked well so far but it's not for everyone.
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I agree but that isn't what Elon or Gwynne are selling it as, well that isn't what they are telling the public it is being sold as.
 
Aren’t these types of incidents taken into account when planning/approval is given for launches?
Seems to be a lot being made about the flights that were diverted and FAA etc.
Obviously the cause needs looking at regardless but surprised it’s seen as an issue on a wider note, or is it just sensational news?
 
ajf said:
Obviously the cause needs looking at regardless but surprised it’s seen as an issue on a wider note, or is it just sensational news?
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As with anything Elon Musk related there is always going to be "sensational news". That said, the incident will indeed be looked at in fact the news is just dropping that FAA have "grounded" Starship and are mandating an investigation but this is a matter of course/procedure and is no surprise, any excursion from planned flight will stipulate this. I suspect that SpaceX are fully aware or have a very good idea of the cause and rectifications required. I suspect this investigation will be reasonably quick, maybe not Elons expected month. However, I'd be surprised if we dont see another IFT by Apr/May time.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
Neither NASA or any other space company works like this, this is how space was done in the 50/60s, build, test, destroy. If NASA was having failures like this Congress would be having hearing after hearing and it would all grind to a halt.

Also I think we are a long way from any astronaut getting on a space ship with no emergency abort system. If anything goes wrong at launch to orbit they are all dead.
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Thats true of a Nasa launch too the chances of getting out on launch to orbit are pretty much zero and even when they suspect the vehicle is damaged in orbit theres no clear way to bring them back safely look at the Shuttle disasters they strongly suspected something was wrong with the heat shield but they went for reentry anyway

ajf said:
Aren’t these types of incidents taken into account when planning/approval is given for launches?
Seems to be a lot being made about the flights that were diverted and FAA etc.
Obviously the cause needs looking at regardless but surprised it’s seen as an issue on a wider note, or is it just sensational news?
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Its not the launch thats in question its the breakup and reentry that was definitely not scheduled you can't just have umpteen tons of space junk falling out of the skies disrupting major plane routes and not expect to have repercussions
 
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