The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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Werewolf said:
He's gone into his purchase of twitter without a clue, and i'm starting to think my brothers comment about him probably being high when he made the offer/signed the contracts might be right
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When you eliminate all other possibilities... :p

I just can't get my head around it. Charge a content creator with let's say 10 million followers. That content creator has to pay to create content, content that twitter needs, so that those 10 million followers view it and see adverts next to it.

And then Elon goes and trys to act like he's playing a game with his posts to AOC, as he trys to highlight a one off charge for a jumper at 58 dollars, that goes to charity and provides an actual item of value, against a never ending charge of 8 dollars every month, or 96 dollars each year.

The optics of it are just terrible.

He needs to hire liz truss so she can teach him about how you sell something.

Publically Arguing with your users isn't one of those ways.

Imagine OCUK started charging users on here £8 per month, you'd get more value out of it then the twitter cost, but on top, imagine OCUK staff arguing and trolling the users that disagree with the charge, pointing out that you spent £8 on a coffee some time. It's a PR nightmare for OCUK to do something like that.

Given Elon is a genius but can't work this out, does that make me a Super Elongated Genius? Name change please :p
 
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It's Musk guys, 4D chess player ;)
In all seriousness, hopefully someone manages to rein him in and make it all work.

Was re-reading some of the text exchanges between Musk and Dorsey, i do wonder if Dorsey had another angle with the brown noising what with him launching a new social platform...
 
visibleman said:
It's Musk guys, 4D chess player ;)
In all seriousness, hopefully someone manages to rein him in and make it all work.

Was re-reading some of the text exchanges between Musk and Dorsey, i do wonder if Dorsey had another angle with the brown noising what with him launching a new social platform...
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Well could or would Dorsey have been able to start the new platform if Musk hadnt bought Twitter?

I think someone got played.
 
dowie said:
It's funny how it's been run badly for years, barely making any profit yet within days of Elon taking over various blue checks are suddenly critical of the various plans he's suggesting.
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It's almost as if Musk taking over has suddenly changed Twitter's financial situation, given that it's yearly costs have just increased by $1B
visibleman said:
It's Musk guys, 4D chess player ;)
In all seriousness, hopefully someone manages to rein him in and make it all work.

Was re-reading some of the text exchanges between Musk and Dorsey, i do wonder if Dorsey had another angle with the brown noising what with him launching a new social platform...
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From reading those texts, Dorsey has totally played him.
 
I get vibes of usual dodgy salesmen.

Pitch it high, instantly drop to what is still way too high, next step is to phone his manager and see if he can do a super-duper one time deal if we close by the end of the day.. ;)
 
Demon said:
I get vibes of usual dodgy salesmen.

Pitch it high, instantly drop to what is still way too high, next step is to phone his manager and see if he can do a super-duper one time deal if we close by the end of the day.. ;)
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All he had to do was appeal to Musk’s narcissism and he had him hook, line, sinker, bait and copy of Angling Times.

“You’ll be like a god if you own Twitter, the world will adore you for it…”
 
Jono8 said:
Just lol :cry:
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See you don't have a response, and it's clearly true.

No one *has* to pay for a verified badge, by opening it up you remove the opaque class system currently in place, and actual content creators who create value can earn from twitter... the $8 becomes irrelevant to them.

It's more people who like the current system for the perceived status but who don't necessarily add sufficient value who are going to be miffed by it.

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FishFluff said:
It's almost as if Musk taking over has suddenly changed Twitter's financial situation, given that it's yearly costs have just increased by $1B
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I've not seen much criticism on that basis, just criticism of the business decisions made suddenly when the same people were pretty silent about it all for years while the company was trundling on not exactly performing particularly well.
 
dowie said:
See you don't have a response, and it's clearly true.

No one *has* to pay for a verified badge, by opening it up you remove the opaque class system currently in place, and actual content creators who create value can earn from twitter... the $8 becomes irrelevant to them.

It's more people who like the current system for the perceived status but who don't necessarily add sufficient value who are going to be miffed by it.

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A lot of your thoughts and opinions are not worthy of a proper response. Just laughs/lols.

Honestly, i can't see how anyone can read his initial lords and peasants/power to the people tweet without breaking down into fits of laughter/feeling extreme pity for Musk and anyone who is a fan of him.
 
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StriderX said:
It inherently cannot perform well or else they would have tried all of that already.
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That seems obviously flawed; X can't perform well or they'd have tried it already could just as easily be applied to Twitter Blue, NFT PFPs, Super followers etc.. all of which were only implemented recently pre-Elon.

Jono8 said:
Honestly, i can't see how anyone can read his initial lords and peasants/power to the people tweet without breaking down into fits of laughter/feeling extreme pity for Musk and anyone who is a fan of him.
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So it's just the semantics you're fixated on? Can't see the wood for the trees as usual...
 
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dowie said:
See you don't have a response, and it's clearly true.

No one *has* to pay for a verified badge, by opening it up you remove the opaque class system currently in place, and actual content creators who create value can earn from twitter... the $8 becomes irrelevant to them.

It's more people who like the current system for the perceived status but who don't necessarily add sufficient value who are going to be miffed by it.

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Class system? Any serious figure could get verified. Why would the likes of you or me need to be verified? We're plebs in the twitterverse. Power to the people my arse :cry: :cry:

I'll be amazed if anyone stars earning money from Twitter. Charging £8 for those that require a check mark isn't going to solve its problems and if they just dish them out to any old person who pays $8 its a worthless mark.
 
chroniclard said:
Is Dowie the "Leave Britney Elon alone girl"......or is it a guy.....:confused:
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This sort of thing pretty much sums it up, Elon is such a polarising figure that even some basic rationalising of why something makes sense in principle or pointing out basic facts is now wrong think, you must be a fanboy type...

Colonel_Klinck said:
Class system? Any serious figure could get verified. Why would the likes of you or me need to be verified? We're plebs in the twitterverse. Power to the people my arse :cry: :cry:

I'll be amazed if anyone stars earning money from Twitter. Charging £8 for those that require a check mark isn't going to solve its problems and if they just dish them out to any old person who pays $8 its a worthless mark.
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Nope, the point is that it verifies people and gives some benefits in return, rather than the current system where it's ostensibly for verifying (some) people, according to some opaque criteria and acts more as a status symbol.

If it is worthless as you claim then no one will pay but it seems like it offers some value that would be applicable to a broader variety of people than catered for currently.
 
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dowie said:
Nope, the point is that it verifies people and gives some benefits in return, rather than the current system where it's ostensibly for verifying (some) people, according to some opaque criteria and acts more as a status symbol.

If it is worthless as you claim then no one will pay but it seems like it offers some value that would be applicable to a broader variety of people than catered for currently.
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You seem to be ignoring once again why there are verified users. If someone starts a @dowie account on twitter and posts things no one will care that it isn't you, except maybe you. Oh there are lots of people who believe they should be verified I'm sure but for most that is just ego and no one is going to care if they are impersonated.

Of course its going to be worthless to the greater community. Being verified meant not only are you the person you say you are but that you aren't a troll, you add something of value to Twitter. If any old Tom, Dick or Harriet can get verified it means nothing other than they are paying $8 a month.
 
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