The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down
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Soldato
Crying about trumps latest performance most likely
First of all, that $8 isn't going to seem like a whole lot if someone impersonating a brand causes said brand to drop their Twitter ad spend.
As for Apple IDs, you can generate as many as you want as long as you have an email address to tie it to, so I'm not sure what the point you're trying to make here is.
The point is that there are extra barriers, you might think $8 doesn't sound a lot but the value of any given spam account isn't likely too high either and this presents extra hurdles for spammers.
Soldato
It'll be interesting if it does.
Twitter is more unique than most social media companies because people are generally typing to the public.
I'd like to see a subscription based social media company were the direction is more dictated by its members.
Musk seems to be going back to the old pre-popular internet days in his thinking. But its going to come down to how he implements it.
Soldato
Which in all measurable ways, he's totally failed at.
Not just the implementation, but also the way he has sold it.
If he brings back the likes of Katie Hopkins, trump, he will only further alienate the users and push them away. Announcing people to vote republican was such a daft move, it's something that will come back and bit him for years I imagine. As it's such an easy thing to throw at him now whenever he pretends to be fair and neutral etc.
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The value of a spam account made for fraud however is far more than $8 and by being verified it gives it a huge boost in it's believability whilst also giving it a boost in how much it's pushed by twitter.
At the moment we're mainly seeing the jokers with their fake accounts, but apparently there are already a large number of fake "twitter hq" type accounts pushing various crypto (and other) fraud schemes that are hard to tell apart from the real accounts because the one thing that showed people an account was actually properly checked was changed and the indicator that used to show that is now there for any fraudster with a stolen card (people are reporting that twitter isn't even matching billing address to card number..).
Spammers and fraudsters have always been willing to pay for services that give a veneer of legitimacy to their scams, $8 is nothing to a scammer who might easily expect to make several thousands of dollars from a single successful bit.
In completely unrelated news, the compliance and privacy officer at twitter apparently quit last night, which I'm sure has nothing to do with the absolute mess Musk is making of twitter and the legal ramifications from say dumping most of the security team and so many of the other staff whose jobs weren't purely to write code, but make sure that things like users personal and financial data was secure.
Not necessarily, for a start, the status boost of simply having a paid-for blue check has been diminished (he's going to add granularity here too - like organisations worked for, ID check etc..), they've limited blue checks to iOS and particular countries initially and are quite clearly cracking down on obvious imitators of big names.
The big accounts being imitated was already a thing, supposed "Elon" popping up with a crypto scam when it's really just a hacked/sold blue check account... now they're cracking down on name changes (lose the checkmark) and clearly are actively looking for spoof accounts - see the recent examples posted here being nuked rather rapidly.
Consider also that scams weren't restricted to blue checkmark accounts, clones of large accounts (particularly crypto-related ones) have previously stayed up for several days even when they're reported by several users and have literally identical profile pics and user descriptions, blue checkmark + in future ID check can help these and in general the drive to actually do something about it... which the company seems to have been complacent about for some time.
The product changes seem to be on the right track... the revenue aspect and scaring of advertisers is the bigger issue IMO... though these product changes will get criticism whatever he does because spaceship man bad.
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Elon Musk is putting Twitter at risk of massive fines, warns employees
“Elon puts rockets into space, he’s not afraid of the FTC.”
www.theverge.com
running for the door when told to sign off this stack of BS
Chief privacy officer
Chief information security officer
Chief compliance officer
All said **** this.
Soldato
Elon Musk is putting Twitter at risk of massive fines, warns employees
“Elon puts rockets into space, he’s not afraid of the FTC.”
running for the door when told to sign off this stack of BS
Chief privacy officer
Chief information security officer
Chief compliance officer
All said **** this.
Good chance they were lawyers and were not putting their signature anywhere near that.
Ah the town square of free speech where actual free speech ends up in the spam folder
Soldato
Yes and I am quite sure that said bad actor going to such lengths would have been able to do the same at any time. (Better check with @Colonel_Klinck).
Haha are you trying to say using a VPN to get a cheaper deal on something is like using it to get a verified account and impersonating someone? If i can use a VPN to buy a cheaper return flights to Mexico if my IP says I'm in Mexico I would be stupid not to do so. You aren't saying you live in Mexico, its just your IP.
Hyped to see an 82 year old Biden standing for President though, if he's still with us in 2 years
Soldato
You just had to jump in. It's almost like you thought I was talking about you.
But any way, I'm glad you can find something to enjoy in life.
"trump did terrible but how I cope is I say I'm glad Biden has done the best a Democrat has ever done at a midterms in 20 years because that means he will lose the next election right?"
I'm not team Republican, why would you think that? I'm not obsessing over American Politicans, it doesn't consume very much of my thoughts. I've checked the results on BBC news a couple of times today and yesterday combined, that's it. Plus Trump and Biden aren't on the cards.
Soldato
Of course they are on the cards. Biden is the president and midterms are a way for the public to punish or reward the party in power which the president leads and in every other midterm when the country faces high inflation and likely recession the party in power gets hammered. Trump hand picked candidates for house, senate, governor and state elections like sec state and his candidates have cost the GOP in all of those categories. They should have taken the senate and had at least a 30+ majority in the house. They might scrape a single digits majority at best.
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Soldato
That one's going in the bank
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YupElon Musk is putting Twitter at risk of massive fines, warns employees
“Elon puts rockets into space, he’s not afraid of the FTC.”
running for the door when told to sign off this stack of BS
Chief privacy officer
Chief information security officer
Chief compliance officer
All said **** this.
I'm guessing they understand the legal risks for what is going on and have been ignored by Musk and don't want to have their names anywhere near what is likely to happen given that Musk seems to think it's hilarious that people are using his new worthless check mark to impersonate major (living) people and corporations with money and sharp lawyers, not to mention the potential criminal and regulatory issues.
I suspect they've made very sure to leave written reasons for why they're leaving and kept copies/sent copies of those reasons to their own lawyers to protect themselves, and are now getting whilst their reputations are still intact.
Who wants to start the betting on when the first GDPR or similar actions start to take place?
Soldato
Musk tells Twitter staff remote working will end
The boss of the social media firm also warns workers to prepare for "difficult times", reports say.
www.bbc.co.uk
Elon hopes all Twitter employees will want to buy a Tesla to commute to the office.
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