The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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For those keeping score at home, Twitter confirmed to the FEC that they never received a request from the Biden campaign to review or restrict the NYP's article on Hunter. Twitter further stated that nobody authorised to act on the company's behalf, had any communication with the Biden team regarding Twitter's decision to moderate the story.
 
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I wish these social media companies would locate to either the UK or Europe.

At least we have a legal framework that as been carefully constructed and is forever being tested either to relax or restrict it.

In the US they never have these debates because it came from God :rolleyes:
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
The story was lifted from a Wired piece and the team down to 1 member is the Asia Pacific one.

www.wired.com

Layoffs Have Gutted Twitter’s Child Safety Team

Just one person remains to enforce the company’s ban on child sexual abuse across Japan and the Asia Pacific region.
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Have wired got anything right about twitter since musk took over? :p
Well it says one full-time member, with no mention of part-time or contractors /shrug
 
Just got around to watching Thunderfoots "Never Believe Elon" video and it is amazing just how many of his claims are complete vaporware. Robots, self driving cars/trucks, solar tiles, hyperloop, boring company and its bricks :cry: :cry: Now I love SpaceX but damn he is the ultimate "this time next year" salesman.

 
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Elon gets rid of the verification system, realises why it was there in the first place, brought it back.

Got rid of content moderation, realised why it was necessary and brought it back.

Brought back Kanye, realised why he was banned and rebanned him.

What a humble genius he is.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
Just got around to watching Thunderfoots "Never Believe Elon" video and it is amazing just how many of his claims are complete vaporware. Robots, self driving cars/trucks, solar tiles, hyperloop, boring company and its bricks :cry: :cry: Now I love SpaceX but damn he is the ultimate "this time next year" salesman.

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I've not watched the video, so it might cover this, but Hyperloop and similar are knowingly nonsense that he uses to block investment in public transport infrastructure. Because he's in the business of 'solving' the environmental impact of transport by selling individual electric cars. Effective public transport works against that.
 
cheesyboy said:
I've not watched the video, so it might cover this, but Hyperloop and similar are knowingly nonsense that he uses to block investment in public transport infrastructure. Because he's in the business of 'solving' the environmental impact of transport by selling individual electric cars. Effective public transport works against that.
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He doesn’t even bring that up but is more on the fact it’s just nonsense. It was never going to get built but people still lap it up because Elon Musk. The solar tiles thing was also a nonsense. He did one of his publicity events saying 3 houses around the event has his solar tiles operating when he later admitted in a deposition that none had solar tiles.
As for the self driving vehicles, he’s been making the claim for over a decade that they can do it and it was/is safer than a human but to this day they can’t and owners still have to keep their hands on the steering wheel at all times as the vehicle could do something unexpected at any time.
 
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When did Elon get rid of content moderation? Also, he hasn't gotten rid of the verification system, he's changing it.
 
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Colonel_Klinck said:
it seems Elon has proved that Trump's administration asked Twitter to remove tweets so violating the 1st Amendment as they were an actual branch of government at the time, unlike Biden's campaign which was a private organisation.
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That is a bit muddled, some of Trump's people asking Twitter to remove tweets isn't inherently violating the 1st Amendment.
 
dowie said:
That is a bit muddled, some of Trump's people asking Twitter to remove tweets isn't inherently violating the 1st Amendment.
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It’s dodgy ground given the Executive is a branch of government where the Biden campaign isn’t. So quite how Elon and the right are claiming it’s a 1st amendment issue is baffling.
 
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StriderX said:
Ah so it's ok if it's once removed from government power to break constitutional rights?
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It's not clear what you're saying here; if what is "once removed from government power"?

Colonel_Klinck said:
It’s dodgy ground given the Executive is a branch of government where the Biden campaign isn’t.
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What relevance does that have re: Twitter moderation decisions? Either campaign can flag up stuff that breaches twitter policy. AFAIK Neither party is claiming that is a 1st Amendment breach if the campagin/staff of the incumbent does it nor have I seen that from commentators (if anything that would be unbalanced to only allow it for one side) - if they are then pls could you link to the relevant tweet/discussion or article as I'd like to see the reasoning. Or is it just something you've come up with by yourself?

1st Amendment concerns arise more with things like a newspaper losing access to its account for reporting a public interest story and the press secretary, that's the sort of thing that gets politicians concerned and has potential for how they then deal with tech companies going forwards:

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It's good to see that Musk is publishing the full private email address in the information he's giving out.
I can't see how that could possibly backfire the first time he does it for one of his EU employees (it rather suggests he's not run this past any competent lawyer, IIRC several US states have laws against it as well)
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
How many times does it need to be said. Its been proven Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump. Members of Trump's team including his own son spoke to and passed information to agents of Russian intelligence. Just because Trump didn't get on the phone to Putin doesn't mean he didn't welcome and encourage their interference in the election.

Of the back of that knowledge its easy to see why FB and Twitter feared they were seeing a repeat of the Wikileaks email drop with the laptop story and that is absolutely what Rudy was trying to achieve with it.
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I said Russian collusion, i.e. the charge against Trump. I know there was some (unspecified) amount of Russian Interefence..

I'm not saying every decision is wrong, I'm only saying that you will sometimes get it wrong if you do subjectively approach the decisions.
 
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