The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

Status
Not open for further replies.
sigma said:
You only seem to post on culture war topics.

Projection at its finest.
Click to expand...

I wasn't even aware this thread was a "culture war" topic, and I don't think it should be. I checked out of Speakers Corner because of how rabid people are in there. I'm someone posting in a thread about Elon Musk who likes Elon Musk, a lot of people are posting in a thread about Elon Musk because they dislike him, yet I'm the guy in the wrong?
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
Story in The Economist showing Twitter was favoring conservative and the least accurate media outlets over accurate ones. Doesn't really fit Elon's narrative. If he wants people to take his narrative seriously he needs to give all this data to serious media outlets.
Click to expand...

Surely that's ultimately user-driven, the issues being raised by the twitter files relates to subjective calls by Twitter employees.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
This whole story is years old :cry:
Click to expand...
Yes which is why I asked if you had anything more up to date.. :confused:

dowie said:
Yes, so not Twitter staff but rather reactions to user likes etc.
Click to expand...
Certainly seems like it, hell the guy that wrote the piece even acknowledges this in the final paragraphs where he states Twitter amplifies less factual sites regardless of political affiliation, i would hazard a guess and say there's more RW amplification because there are more rw users.
 
C Kent said:
Certainly seems like it, hell the guy that wrote the piece even acknowledges this in the final paragraphs where he states Twitter amplifies less factual sites regardless of political affiliation, i would hazard a guess and say there's more RW amplification because there are more rw users.
Click to expand...

Or they're better at generating clickbait, outrage etc.. I'm sure Fox is great for controversy, that drives engagement, gets boosted etc..

That's got little to do with the subjective decisions taken by twitter staff as per the twitter files.
 
dowie said:
Or they're better at generating clickbait, outrage etc.. I'm sure Fox is great for controversy, that drives engagement, gets boosted etc..

That's got little to do with the subjective decisions taken by twitter staff as per the twitter files.
Click to expand...
Indeed
 
dowie said:
What's your point? Do you not understand the distinction being made here?
Click to expand...

The right has been complaining for years that Twitter was favouring the left when the algorithm clearly wasn't, its written and tweaked by Twitter staff. If they wanted to to silence right wing voices the algorithm would be the obvious place to do it.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
The right has been complaining for years that Twitter was favouring the left when the algorithm clearly wasn't, its written and tweaked by Twitter staff. If they wanted to to silence right wing voices the algorithm would be the obvious place to do it.
Click to expand...

It might help if you referred to something specific here?

You're conflating different things I think, you mentioned "Elon's narrative" in reference to the algorithm, but now you're making a vague claim about "the right".

Again, the big issue with the twitter files I thought was the decisions made by staff? You've thrown this thing about the algo into the mix but that seems like a different issue - is there some claim made by Matt or Bari re: the algorithm?
 
Last edited:
Colonel_Klinck said:
The right has been complaining for years that Twitter was favouring the left when the algorithm clearly wasn't, its written and tweaked by Twitter staff. If they wanted to to silence right wing voices the algorithm would be the obvious place to do it.
Click to expand...
Is it engagement that drives the algorithm? likes/retweets etc? Maybe the users of the NYT should start cracking on and interact with the twitter account.
 
C Kent said:
Certainly seems like it, hell the guy that wrote the piece even acknowledges this in the final paragraphs where he states Twitter amplifies less factual sites regardless of political affiliation, i would hazard a guess and say there's more RW amplification because there are more rw users.
Click to expand...

Usually social media algorithms are designed to maximise little more than engagement. It’s therefore not surprising that they end up amplifying less factual sites or stories.

Both extreme ends of the political spectrum are guilty of writing articles that put viral potential above accuracy, but I would argue that right leaning outlets tend to do this far more effectively and certainly more prolifically.

Also, it’s worth considering that right wing talking points tend to value emotive topics and fears fairly highly, so again, engagement is likely increased as a result.

As such, I personally don’t think that the trends this study identified are particularly surprising.
 
Last edited:
unwashed potato! said:
I knew it was only a matter of time, before big hard roar moans that people aren't working so need to stop posting negative things about Elon.

What a stupid thing to say in this thread.

I think it has to be Roars lowest yet.

Like, he can't even imagine that 1) it's a Saturday, b) people can be retired, uni student etc and 4) people can be ceo of 3 companies and enjoy time off, work odd hours etc.

What a silly silly thing to say.

And what's the intent. The intent isn't to show that users post too much, as he won't say it to dowie, and quite rightly, dowie is totally free to post any minute of the day he likes, but roar has issue with this ONLY if its from a user who posts negative stuff about elon

How sad. Sad sad sad sad sad.
Click to expand...

I wondered what that noise was whilst I was working earlier. I thought it was expansion of the steel building's cladding as the sun warmed it. But I see now it was raw nerves being tweaked :)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom