The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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Is roar really defending a billionaire again from every little minor criticism?

2023 roar is better than 2022 roar, you stopped this behaviour in the new year and became better for it.

The level of devotion to Elon is nuts.

I do love the way he attacks people with 'do you know him personally' when they say bad things about him then in the next line talks as if he knows him personally.
 
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...which even if it were true has nothing to do with an ego
What is a legitimate reason for Musk to get engineers in at short notice to rework parts of the platform to artificially "boost" his tweets due to low engagement (compared to other users; Biden in this case) if it was not to stroke his own ego?
 
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What is a legitimate reason for Musk to get engineers in at short notice to rework parts of the platform to artificially "boost" his tweets due to low engagement (compared to other users; Biden in this case) if it was not to stroke his own ego?

Didnt he first ask them to find why he wasnt getting as many views or what ever and when they told him people think you are a loom he said. No it cant be that, there must be something wrong with the code. Fix it.
 
What is a legitimate reason for Musk to get engineers in at short notice to rework parts of the platform to artificially "boost" his tweets due to low engagement (compared to other users; Biden in this case) if it was not to stroke his own ego?

There's no proof that actually happened, however a valid reason would be his Tweets promoting Twitter in a marketing sense, his own Tweets being *more* visible promote the platform and the positive changes he's bringing to it. A lot of his Tweets are actually reported in the media, he's basically doing the marketing for Twitter himself.

Or just you know, rocket man bad
 
Is roar really defending a billionaire again from every little minor criticism?

2023 roar is better than 2022 roar, you stopped this behaviour in the new year and became better for it.

The level of devotion to Elon is nuts.

Is wealth a criteria you support in deciding if unwarranted criticism of a person is morally justified or not? Sounds a bit, err, iffy to me ;) Do you hold the converse as true, a pauper is fair game for unwarranted criticism?
 
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You're basically just taking the worst possible view of someone with no evidence for no obvious reason except that you personally dislike him
Or because he's paid attention to reality?

Did or did not Musk place an offer to buy twitter for way above market value?
Did or did not Musk try to back out of the deal after he'd signed a water tight contract and only go on with it when the court was about to rule that he had to?
Has Musk got, or not got history of making stupid jokes about stock that have 420 in them somewhere? (IIRC that's the reason he's meant to be getting a lawyer to vet every comment he makes on twitter re Tesla).

If you care to go back to when he first made the offer you'll probably see a bunch of us saying he probably didn't intend to go on with it, and then that lawyers who actually understand the sort of contract and buy out he was going with were surprised that he didn't bother with the most basic of "due diligence", and the sort of contract he signed.
Basically either Musk though it was all a laugh and to get some attention, or he's really one of the most stupid billionaires ever, given he showed no inclination of understanding what he was doing, or what he was buying, let along the legal issues that come with buying.
I mean it's a coin toss as to which, but he's certainly given zero indication he went into the purchase having given any thought to it and most of his actions since have just reinforced that, and he keeps making really obvious mistakes and having to backtrack/reverse changes that tell anyone who cares to pay attention that he really doesn't understand what he's doing*.

Most people, especially successful millionaires/billionaires tend to be a heck of a lot more careful with their money when offering to buy a company, if for no other reason than that's usually how the got to become a billionaire, and how they maintain it.
He's basically acting like a lottery winner whose just gone out to buy his dream car, and having never driven anything more powerful than a Corsa tries to hoon a Ferrari around a country lane (with the predictable meeting with a hedge, or tree).

On the flip side, I guess it was really nice of Musk to give all those Twitter shareholders a bigger payout than they probably ever expected to get.

*The whole "lets sell the marker that shows someone has been checked, for just $8" thing, which everyone was predicting would cause chaos, yet we were told "no he knows what he's doing", and it took under a day for that chaos to happen, to the surprise of almost anyone but Musk and his fans.
 
Basically either Musk though it was all a laugh and to get some attention, or he's really one of the most stupid billionaires ever, given he showed no inclination of understanding what he was doing, or what he was buying, let along the legal issues that come with buying.

I'm just going to go with you are wrong, feel free to post your IQ and bank balance though just to show how good you are with money and your genius level IQ.

Elon's IQ is estimated to be around 155, while Albert Einstein's is 160. With such a slight margin, Musk is undoubtedly an incredibly smart person. Who is the smartest person on earth in 2022?



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Or because he's paid attention to reality?

Did or did not Musk place an offer to buy twitter for way above market value?
Ok?
Did or did not Musk try to back out of the deal after he'd signed a water tight contract and only go on with it when the court was about to rule that he had to?
Yes, you're obviously ignoring the fact that he wanted to pull out due to Twitter lying about their MAU user count and what percentage were bots.
Has Musk got, or not got history of making stupid jokes about stock that have 420 in them somewhere? (IIRC that's the reason he's meant to be getting a lawyer to vet every comment he makes on twitter re Tesla).
Yes, Elon has a sense of humour (unlike a lot on here), he makes jokes and doesn't take life *too* seriously.
If you care to go back to when he first made the offer you'll probably see a bunch of us saying he probably didn't intend to go on with it, and then that lawyers who actually understand the sort of contract and buy out he was going with were surprised that he didn't bother with the most basic of "due diligence", and the sort of contract he signed.
Basically either Musk though it was all a laugh and to get some attention, or he's really one of the most stupid billionaires ever, given he showed no inclination of understanding what he was doing, or what he was buying, let along the legal issues that come with buying.
No he wanted to buy Twitter for the reasons he stated, he tried to back out after finding the true valuation would've been much lower than offered due to the bots.

I mean it's a coin toss as to which, but he's certainly given zero indication he went into the purchase having given any thought to it and most of his actions since have just reinforced that, and he keeps making really obvious mistakes and having to backtrack/reverse changes that tell anyone who cares to pay attention that he really doesn't understand what he's doing*.
Obvious mistakes according to people who don't have any sort of grasp on how Twitter is run or see the full picture like the actual owner does. You for example still seem shocked that he made so many redundancies even after he said that it was losing $4million a day or whatever absurd amount it was.

Most people, especially successful millionaires/billionaires tend to be a heck of a lot more careful with their money when offering to buy a company, if for no other reason than that's usually how the got to become a billionaire, and how they maintain it.
Yeah, he's more successful than those people, yet he's not trying to simply gain wealth, otherwise he wouldn't have bought Twitter. Social media companies aren't exactly the best way to earn a quick buck.
He's basically acting like a lottery winner whose just gone out to buy his dream car, and having never driven anything more powerful than a Corsa tries to hoon a Ferrari around a country lane (with the predictable meeting with a hedge, or tree).

On the flip side, I guess it was really nice of Musk to give all those Twitter shareholders a bigger payout than they probably ever expected to get.

*The whole "lets sell the marker that shows someone has been checked, for just $8" thing, which everyone was predicting would cause chaos, yet we were told "no he knows what he's doing", and it took under a day for that chaos to happen, to the surprise of almost anyone but Musk and his fans.
It's hardly chaos though is it? You seem to find the idea of doing things differently and taking risks to be insane. I get that, you're very different to him. You and him have nothing in common in that respect. Someone who doesn't take risks and someone who doesn't try and do things differently probably will never achieve anything special. You see it in all walks of life. I'm not claiming I do by the way, but I at least look at people who achieve great things by taking risk and don't assume they're morons.
 
Being intelligent doesn't make you wise and that's before we even get to the 'estimated IQ' part of this equation.

Anyhoo the guy who sells perfumes must be a giga genius then?
Smartest tech entrepreneur imo is Tom from myspace sold out made millions and disappeared to an island somewhere that's a high IQ move.
 
he's not trying to simply gain wealth
Made up nonsense
otherwise he wouldn't have bought Twitter
Made up nonsense
Social media companies aren't exactly the best way to earn a quick buck.
Made up nonsense
You for example still seem shocked that he made so many redundancies even after he said that it was losing $4million a day
Made up nonsense
he tried to back out after finding the true valuation would've been much lower than offered due to the
Made up nonsense
You seem to find the idea of doing things differently and taking risks to be insane
Made up nonsense
Someone who doesn't take risks and someone who doesn't try and do things differently probably will never achieve anything specia
What a ****

There seems to be a theme with you roar :D
 
Yes, you're obviously ignoring the fact that he wanted to pull out due to Twitter lying about their MAU user count and what percentage were bots.

No he wanted to buy Twitter for the reasons he stated, he tried to back out after finding the true valuation would've been much lower than offered due to the bots.

And maybe he could have, if he’d bothered to do any due diligence and had a clue about how the law worked instead of just signing a contract which he COULDN’T back out of. Why did he do this? Why agree to do something with no comeback, then complain when you have no comeback?

The whole ‘bots’ thing was just an excuse when he realised what a massive **** up he’d made.

Also, the ‘true’ valuation of Twitter had nothing to do with his offer price, he just happened to offer $54.20 per share which is funny because drugs.
 
Obvious mistakes according to people who don't have any sort of grasp on how Twitter is run or see the full picture like the actual owner does. You for example still seem shocked that he made so many redundancies even after he said that it was losing $4million a day or whatever absurd amount it was.
try and do things differently probably will never achieve anything special. You see it in all walks of life. I'm not claiming I do by the way, but I at least look at people who achieve great things by taking risk and don't assume they're morons.
It was losing less than a million a day before he bought it, and had turned a profit in several previous years.

The only reason it's now losing 4 million a day is simple and has a name, and that name is Musk. He loaded it massively with so much debt that the interest alone is something like 3 million a day (so that's around 3/4 of it's losses down to Musk purely from the moment of sale), then Musk fired all of the people that booked adverts (remember those, they were Twitters income source) and basically chased off pretty much every reputable, high value advertiser so they're no longer booking new adverts, at the same time amongst the people he fired were those that maintained things like the advert control panels so more and more advertisers are leaving because they now can't control their adverts and have been seeing things like old outdated campaigns being run again because of new bugs (and no way to report them/get them fixed, as Musk fired everyone they could have contacted), and no way to measure how the ads that are running correctly are performing.

Also the whole bot thing doesn't hold any water, given that;
A: They gave him the same measurements they gave the Federal government, and that meant that any falsehood there would have meant personal criminal liability for those signing off on it, but it was never challenged. If it was as Musk says you'd think he would have at least asked the feds to look into it, and put a hold on the deal.
B: The Super genius didn't bother to do his basic due diligence and signed away what is normally considered the most basic right to check their measurements and methods. In more normal terms it's like deciding he liked the look of a house from just a single photo and put an offer in for more than it was worth whilst signing a contract with no get out clauses, whilst actively refusing to get someone in to check for subsidence, rot or even what it looked like inside.

It's also worth noting that Twitter gave him far more access to their information than his contract required as a measure of good faith, including the raw data on user stats etc, which he did nothing with (IIRC the term I believe is "a firehose of raw data").

Basically if as he claimed he was lied to about the number of bots etc, not only would that have been probably the only get out he could have used in court (but failed to), it would also have been of huge interest to the FTC and securities people, as it would have indicated massive fraud against investors and share holders given he was given the same information and methodology that the federal agencies and other shareholders were given.

But yes, laying off most of the staff including those that were in charge of actually making the company money when you buy it is a great way to deal with it losing money, I mean who needs the people that bring in most of the income to the company when you're worried about how much it's losing
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And maybe he could have, if he’d bothered to do any due diligence and had a clue about how the law worked instead of just signing a contract which he COULDN’T back out of. Why did he do this? Why agree to do something with no comeback, then complain when you have no comeback?

The whole ‘bots’ thing was just an excuse when he realised what a massive **** up he’d made.

Also, the ‘true’ valuation of Twitter had nothing to do with his offer price, he just happened to offer $54.20 per share which is funny because drugs.
None of that has anything to do with his ego though. He paid too much for Twitter, but his reason for doing that was to create a free speech platform. You seem very angry about the 420 thing, do you look down on people who take cannabis and think you're better than them? Seems like you do and have an ego about it
 
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