The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down
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I know that it is bad practise to judge something based on a snippet but from your screenshot, this sounds like they are spending over half the amount on a temporary measure (buying food to give to people) that doesn't seem to actually fix the core issue. Since it doesn't address the core issue the problem will arise again in a few months and then they will be asking for another $6 billion. Rinse and repeat
The old adage of give a man a fish and you will feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you will feed him for a lifetime springs to mind.
Also with inflation and the looming food crisis that $6 billion ain't going far.
The equivalent of giving the local homeless man a pizza.
$700m to manage new food programs that are adapted in-country.
$400m on operations management, administration and accountability.
Lots of kickbacks and bribes then.
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A director of the UN walked back the statement on claiming $6b would solve world hunger.
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More? Evidence please.
Start with the evidence for 5% ... Oh what that was an educated guess and they have no idea
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Start with the evidence for 5% ... Oh what that was an educated guess and they have no idea
It wasn't an educated guess, it was an estimate based on a statistical sample.
@BowdonUK said 'now it's looking like there is more.' That might be true, but what evidence is it based on?
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The story was all over the media for a few days even giving higher percentages.
A quick google I found this article from May 16th;
Twitter buy on hold; Musk cites fake account, ‘spam bot’ issues
https://journalrecord.com/2022/05/16/twitter-buy-on-hold-musk-cites-fake-account-spam-bot-issues/
Just in case people are going to question that source, here is Reuters writing about it;
Do spam bots really comprise under 5% of Twitter users? Elon Musk wants to know
https://www.reuters.com/technology/...witter-users-elon-musk-wants-know-2022-05-13/
Soldato
Not to say you're wrong, but the evidence you provided didn't even say what you claimed.
It said...
Appeared to
Hardly the proof that was being asked for don't you agree?
Caporegime
OK, so no real evidence, just different estimates from people who don't actually work for Twitter.
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I'm really not sure how Twitter is assuming the amount of spam bots there is on their network. If its about 5% with a pure guess then that's ok but if they can get a precise nummber % then they could easy stop the bots from signup. There are mesures now that enables you to stop fake signups.
Make of this what you will..
https://mobile.twitter.com/timcast/status/1526336405663776768?s=12&t=omtspSdePLG9qOBIAC6hzQ
https://mobile.twitter.com/timcast/status/1526336405663776768?s=12&t=omtspSdePLG9qOBIAC6hzQ
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hmmmmmm is all I have to say about that.
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When I posted that last night I knew when I woke up this morning you'd dismiss it. It's funny how you'll accept anything that agrees with you. But won't accept anything less than you personally and physically seeing the figures.
I'll ask those companies to let you sit in their office to tell you how they worked out their percentages eh?
Seriously, you can use your line on any subject because none of us actually see the evidence of news ourselves. It's a convenient excuse.
I don't know what you think the story is about if you don't think its what you're being told?
Soldato
Twitter as been manipulating the figures for years.
Now, like the allies closing in on Berlin, Twitter is trying to destroy the evidence.
Can't believe they used a sample size of 100 to gage the number of bots... That's just insane.
CEO making excuses on Twitter was fairly amusing though, don't know if Elon is going to get a realistic answer with regard to the true number, or least one he will be satisfied with.
Sounds like a great place to work though, 4 hours a week...
CEO making excuses on Twitter was fairly amusing though, don't know if Elon is going to get a realistic answer with regard to the true number, or least one he will be satisfied with.
Just confirming everything most users suspected.
Sounds like a great place to work though, 4 hours a week...
Soldato
I'm not sure Twitter, or any social media for that matter, could give a definitive figure on the number of fake/bot accounts so at best it's still going to be a ballpark figure.
Although what technologies/measures can be deployed to 100% prevent fake/bot signups?
I would have thought if they could do that then social media (it's not just a Twitter issue) wouldn't have this issue.
Is there an official source to confirm this rather than Elon tweeting it?
Seems rather low if it is true
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ID Checks, Email Check, Age verification, Address verification. It might come to this yet with all social media platforms.
I'm not sure Twitter, or any social media for that matter, could give a definitive figure on the number of fake/bot accounts so at best it's still going to be a ballpark figure.
Although what technologies/measures can be deployed to 100% prevent fake/bot signups?
I would have thought if they could do that then social media (it's not just a Twitter issue) wouldn't have this issue.
Is there an official source to confirm this rather than Elon tweeting it?
Seems rather low if it is true
Apparently Twitter Legal claimed he broke an NDA by releasing the information so I'm assuming it's true. No, just Elon's Tweets... Definitely not something they would want to share officially.
Soldato
It's project veritas ,so 'context' sometimes needs to be applied.
I'd say it's very likely that right wing people do indeed tend to tolerate abuse and won't complain, and the left or at least the woke left will definitely complain at anything and so if Twitter just only censored based purely on complaints it'd also looked left bias'd without necessarily needing left leaning staff/policies.
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