The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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Freakbro said:
That's what I thought at the time!

Since you don't seem to remember though, it was when Peterson was talking crap on twitter and he was pulled up by his regulatory body and sent for some 'social media training' as his standards had fallen below what was expected of his profession and your hot take on it was



Which made you look a right berk at the time tbh :D
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Oh, you don't understand context - gotcha
 
Roar87 said:
They actually settled, so they weren't successfully sued, I suppose this would be one of those lies.
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They were sued regardless and it might depend on an individual's definition of 'successfully' given the end goal might have been to force them to settle from the get-go ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Roar87 said:
Literally nothing in your post was factual.
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And 'literally' this would be incorrect...
 
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Colonel_Klinck said:
Interesting Elon? A professional liar fired for his lies about the 2020 election interviews a rapist who tried to end democracy in America.
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Freakbro said:
I see Roar is so far down the rabbit hole he hasn't noticed Trump being indicted with over 90 charges regarding trying to subvert the democratic vote :p

And he's still pushing Tuckers "Guided tour" narrative, even though that was pointed out to be rubbish when he last said it. This is a common thing with people of lower intelligence, once they learn something it's very difficult for them to change their opinion, even when it's shown to be incorrect.
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It was perhaps remarkable that the conversation was taking place at all. Just five months ago, Carlson was revealed to have said of Trump in a text message: “I hate him passionately.”

“We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights,” the then Fox News prime-time anchor said in a message to a colleague in early January 2021 as the former president continued a futile battle to remain in office. “I truly can’t wait.”
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Chris Wilson said:
And is so far in the lead the other runners might as well be in a different race ;) "Interesting" indeed :)

I wonder how many man hours have been wasted bickering over X, something 99.9% of people have no control over save to either use or not use the platform?
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The fact a 1/4 of the US population is in a cult doesn't make it interesting. The fact remains Carlson is a professional liar and Trump is a rapist who tried to subvert the will of the electorate and steal an election.

Every discussion on politics online is exactly what you described and you like to join in them. The platform is irrelevant as is the fact we have no control over what happens either.
 
Roar87 said:
Tried to end Democracy, oh god, I'm dying. Some rednecks trespassed in the Capitol building, some of which were given a guided tour, THE END OF DEMOCRACYYY
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Maybe you've missed the news Roar but he's been charged as have others with an attempt to overthrow an election so bypassing the democratic process. What makes you think if he's been successful he would have happily returned to a democracy?
 
Roar87 said:
They actually settled, so they weren't successfully sued, I suppose this would be one of those lies. Another being that countless people are headed to jail because they haven't yet had a trial. Literally nothing in your post was factual.
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Only you could think that suing someone and them settling for $750m isn't successful :cry: :cry:
 
C Kent said:
to people following the GOP primaries, it would be interesting as the current front runner isn't taking part in the debates. rather he's doing an interview with carlson. I would expect that ticks a lot of boxes to be 'interesting'
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As I said a professional liar who was fired for his lies that cost his employer $750m
C Kent said:
Who's the rapist? There are plenty of things to call trump but at least try to be factual instead of spurging out.
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Trump is the rapist.

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll​


 
Colonel_Klinck said:
As I said a professional liar who was fired for his lies that cost his employer $750m


Trump is the rapist.

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll​


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haha, i knew you'd quote that article, I assume you haven't bothered to read it. You should.

just for reference

www.nytimes.com

Read the Completed Jury Verdict Form in the Trump-Carroll Case (Published 2023)

A jury, which held former President Donald J. Trump liable on Tuesday for the sexual abuse and defamation of E. Jean Carroll and awarded her $5 million, completed a verdict form that spelled out possible findings.
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Question one:
Did Ms Carroll prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, that Mr Trump raped Ms Carroll
Answer no.

No he isnt a rapist, the end.
 
C Kent said:
haha, i knew you'd quote that article, I assume you haven't bothered to read it. You should.

just for reference

www.nytimes.com

Read the Completed Jury Verdict Form in the Trump-Carroll Case (Published 2023)

A jury, which held former President Donald J. Trump liable on Tuesday for the sexual abuse and defamation of E. Jean Carroll and awarded her $5 million, completed a verdict form that spelled out possible findings.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

Question one:
Did Ms Carroll prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, that Mr Trump raped Ms Carroll
Answer no.

No he isnt a rapist, the end.
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Looks like you didn't read the whole article. I'm going with the judge, the man is a rapist.

Kaplan roundly rejected Trump’s motion Tuesday, calling that argument “entirely unpersuasive.”
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.
He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.”
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C Kent said:
No he isnt a rapist, the end.
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Yes, he is (emphasis mine):

Dismissing the counterclaim, Judge Kaplan provided an unsparing analysis of the legal issues that informed the New York verdict. He wrote: “The only issue on which the jury did not find in Ms Carroll’s favour was whether she proved that Mr Trump ‘raped’ her within the narrow, technical meaning of that term in the New York penal law.

“The jury … was instructed that it could find that Mr Trump ‘raped’ Ms Carroll only if it found that he forcibly penetrated Ms Carroll’s vagina with his penis.

“It could not find that he ‘raped’ her if it determined that Mr Trump forcibly penetrated Ms Carroll’s private sexual parts with his fingers – which commonly is considered ‘rape’ in other contexts – because the New York penal law definition of rape is limited to penile penetration.”

Kaplan had already outlined why it was not defamation for Carroll to say Trump raped her.

“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘rape’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”​

It is not defamation to call him a rapist, it is a statement of fact.
 
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