The rise of OnlyFans

[Narj]

Is it just me or is this becoming scarily ubiquitous now?

I always thought this was just for camgirls and the like but I've spoken to 2 women in my local area who say they do it, one of whom has a boyfriend and he doesn't see any problem with it.

I personally think this is a deal-breaker for dating but apparently I'm an old-fashioned prude according to some I've spoken to. I've done some "research" - ahem - even looking at some of the what I'd consider "wholesome" content makers on YouTube - I'm surprised to see they have OF as well even if it's kept reasonably quiet.

I've also seen some very sad posts online. One example that I can't seem to track down again now said that people would get free access to her OF for donations towards a GoFundMe for some medical expenses or something similar. This was a woman in her fifties from memory.

Is this a symptom of moral decay in society or is it just a result of desperation in some cases? Opinions please as I'd like to know if I'm full-on fuddy-duddy and not understanding the modern world.

PS: NO - I do not subscribe to any OF and I suggest you sort yourself out if you do.
Google OF leaks or content on reddit instead you fools!.

 

[Narj]

Sex sells. It's times oldest profession.

Yeah but the odd thing is that unlike a discreet tumble in the sack in a hotel room, content is now out there forever. Control over it is an illusion as it's always leaked elsewhere.

Being at school and seeing someone's mum's bits is going to be a recipe for bullying, no? A bit beyond, "your mum's a <lady of the night>" insults when you have actual pictures.

Don't get me wrong, if you can make good money from the hustle then I respect that, but it's a tiny percentage of people who do that. I'm just a bit surprised at how so many normies are doing it now and the negatives have surely got to massively outweigh the benefits. Not sure people are thinking it through.

 

[Narj]

I've noticed that lately - quite surprising in some cases.

I think this was the most shocking one from a girl I'd seen in some Youtube Documentaries - the algorithm made one of those pop up in my feed again so I thought, "surely not her..."

Holy mother of god that is depressing.

And probably an extremely challenging ****.

 

[Narj]

engaging the community and trying to earn a living.
trying not to lose an incoming and keep the people (fan base) paying the food, rent, and life style.
twitch streamers & Youtubers any one?

flip side is this is a short term job its not a life long job.... that said :

Katie Waissel's gran who was 'oldest prostitute in UK' dies at 93

Former X Factor star Katie Waissel's family are currently mourning the loss of their grandmother, Sheila Vogel-Coupe, who has died aged 93. Despite the heartache, her family say they are "proud of her"

www.mirror.co.uk

&

Meet the oldest prostitutes in Amsterdam – they're 70-year-old twins

Louise and Martine Fokkens are the subjects of a recent film and a new book about their life together as 'window girls' – and more than happy to talk about their new-found celebrity

www.theguardian.com

so maybe it could be.

Yeah as I say, I can respect earning money any way you can, especially when you're in a bind although in that particular case there's been a gofundme which has raised plenty of cash so I'm a bit confused.

*shakes fist at cloud*

Hah - oh my god that's some entertaining reading

 

[Narj]

Personally I can't understand people paying for it. Just can't.

I even get paying for sex. But I can't wrap my head around paying for OF. It's often not even personal.

I'll occasionally throw a few quid at a Twitch streamer who's playing an instrument or who is very entertaining when gaming, but throwing money at people for bobs and vagene when there's so much free stuff out there is crazy to me - I mean, if you want to see the "girl next door" type then they are all over certain subs.

Paying is mental, especially when it's probably some dude they've employed that's responding to your messages on OF.

As said above, I think the thirst out there is real otherwise it wouldn't be a thing. There's also this weird financial domination/deprivation thing going on amongst some dudes which I really don't understand. I'm just surprised that the market isn't completely saturated now.

Times are hard and ends have to be met.

I tip my hat to you, sir!

 

[Narj]

It boggles my mind.
I see it as a target for AI.
Because, it's a remote job, that takes no skill, and is only visual.
AI is quite capable of responding to these dudes messages.
AI is capable of generating these woman when only on cam.

You can make the darkest, nicest, kinkiest, wildest **** and undercut the competition.
Of to me seems a massive AI target.
Literally may go back to dudes ripping off dudes!

Meet Spain's first AI model who earns up to €10,000 a month

Aitana, 25, a pink-haired woman from Barcelona, receives weekly private messages from celebrities asking her out. But this model is not real.

www.euronews.com

It's already happening on Instagram so I wouldn't be surprised if it's happening on OF - although getting uncensored content might be tricky at the moment.

There are tonnes of tutorials on Youtube on how to use AI to make a fake influencer. What a time to be alive. Maybe I need to start a foot fetish AI Insta and quit my job

 

[Narj]

Yeah like said. I'd do it for sure.
Maybe I should put on a wig, get into my pink leggings, pop some stuffing down my top and make some content.

Worst bit is.. It might even work!

Paging Mags.... Paging Mags....

 

[Narj]

Less and less people are willing to work a normal job in general. They would rather just not work, or do the bare minimum and have a full social life with less stress. Times are changing.

That resonates with me as well and I'm in my 40s - it isn't just the youngsters.

I've spent a lot of time recently working out how I can afford to retire early or go part-time. Feels like pretty much everyone is fed up with the rat race now and I know some of my older colleagues at work feel the same.

So yeah, I do understand why someone would take what they see as an easy option.

 

[Narj]

Some of these girls are making more money spending 30 minutes porking themselves with a hair brush than they would working 9-5 all month

So, you kind of understand why they do it.

From a societal point of view it's extremely sad.

Only a tiny fraction of creators actually earn decent money though it seems.

Supposedly for 2024:
- 300+ creators earn $1M+ per year
- 16,000+ creators earn $50,000+ per year.
- The median account makes $180/mo.
- That means ~$140/mo after taxes
- Top 1% of the creators earn 33% of the income
- Top 10% of the creators earn 73% of the income
- The average OnlyFans subscription is $7.20.
- Out of that $5.76 is kept by the creator and $1.44 is kept by the platform
- The average OnlyFans account has 21 fans

Slightly older stats from this data: https://www.businessinsider.com/onlyfans-monica-huldt-describes-how-makes-money-2020-3

• The top 10% OnlyFans content creators make over $1000 a month.
• The top 1% makes more than $6000 every month.
• The top 0.1% make over $100,000 a month

 

[Narj]

Bear with me on this but:

An OF account where the numpties from the Graphics Card forum separate into two equally dreadful teams, get naked, and then hurl insults at each other until someone either cries or furiously wets themselves out of the sheer injustice of their favoured team being misrepresented.

I would unironically subscribe to that channel.

Culminating in someone furiously rubbing their junk on a 4090 for a happy ending?

 

[Narj]

You're thinking from your perspective.
If it was that easy no one would have an addiction. No one would lose their life to gambling.

You may be able to say no. But many many people can't.

I believe OF themselves acknowledged this was a problem by capping tips/private messages to $100 at one point.

 

[Narj]

And what makes those 2 women NOT camgirls ?

Well they obviously are now! But what I meant was already established sex workers.

You pedants will be the end of me

 

[Narj]

Lets just agree to disagree. I don't think we need to make excuses for men simping over women. It's a tale as old as time it's just more rampant now.

Simps gonna simp, but I do see what he's getting at. What if some of these guys are on the spectrum or have some other mental issues that lead to poor decision making?

I can't think of any other reason why some of these guys will kiss a woman's boots and empty their account at an ATM for them.

 

[Narj]

But how is the content creator supposed to know that? They're in the business of making money and extracting as much cash from whoever wants their services. Are we seriously expecting content creators to perform mental health checks on their customers?

That should lie with the platform not the creators IMO, or even the user's bank should be going WTF.

They pull me up whenever I try to get a couple of grand out in cash and make sure I'm not being scammed but I don't think there are any checks going on here.

I mean, it's their money but who knows, maybe a phone call from the bank might help them reconsider. Especially in the case of someone who isn't a millionaire just throwing their life savings away for example - that should get alarm bells ringing.

 

[Narj]

Onlyfans has been a godsend for independent content creators and I’ve now got 2 houses under my belt based on it since Covid.

Bloody fair play and good luck to you in all honesty - it seems far more difficult for guys to do this.

Not sure it's something I'd be comfortable with even if I was a musclebound Adonis.

 

[Narj]

On a similar note, is anyones linked in feed full of attractive female recuiters? Bet they are all on only fans too lol.

When I was on Linkedin and searching for a change, the overly-familiar recruiter messages did my head in. Obviously leveraging looks to get a response.

 

[Narj]

The additional problem is that when someone makes an OF, they get a quick £100 or so within days. They think this is the norm and will increase, when the reality is, those initial payments are from people in the local community, old school friends, creepy family members, nosey neighbours, losers in the local pub they go to etc, who want to have a look.

Once they have done, that curiosity is done and the money stops, and that’s where the customers run out as no one’s going to subscribe to a random half attractive girl amongst the millions out there.

But they don’t realise that, think they’ve struck gold, and then become very disappointed they don’t get that same money the next month, never mind way more.

That's what I suspected most experiences would be like. Great input, cheers

 

[Narj]

They are clamping down on all "side hustles". Though how they are going to process it all who knows, they will never keep up. They rarely catch the people doing it full time.

Even with the updated rules there are still grey areas too.

I think you're underestimating the investment and effort they've put into automated reporting from banks, investment companies and the like. I believe this is why lots of people have received letters saying they no longer need to do tax returns when they would have to do one previously.

My feeling is they will eventually come for you if you're not legit. Shame they don't put more effort into scrutinising big business rather than the little guy.

 

[Narj]

Exactly.

Everyone has heard the stories? if not there's probably tons of youtube videos on it with some pretty strong evidence.

Only fans is basically the new red light district/wanna be page 3 girls
Insta models are the new high class escorts.

*cough* Tag the Sponsor. *cough*

 

[Narj]

Don't have any issue with OF. Their body, their choice and it's far better they're the ones making most of the money rather than the owners, mainly men, of glossy mags and porn studios like was the case in the past.

Yeah, now it's mostly just one dude benefiting. He's only taking 20% though!

OnlyFans: Who is Leonid Radvinsky, the elusive owner of a porn empire?

Leonid Radvinsky, a 41-year-old entrepreneur based in Florida, owns all the shares of the company.

www.bbc.co.uk

OnlyFans' profits have skyrocketed in the past year and news that its owner earned more than $300m (£238m) in dividends has ignited fresh questions about the pornography mogul.