The Royals
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Read what I said again. The US doesn’t extradite it’s own citizens to foreign countries for trial. They have treaties with many countries for extradition of US citizens or wanted criminals but AFAIK they’ve never extradited one of their own citizens to a foreign country.
So I’ve looked it up and can see that overall, to the UK, there have only been 12 extraditions from the US to the Uk. Ever. So I was incorrect, but it is very rare.
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This was on Wiki, but it’s a tad ambiguous, it says that no U.S. citizen was extradited for an alleged crime while based in U.S.
I’m not sure what that means, it sounds like, if you contravened U.K. law while in U.S., you wouldn’t be extradited to U.K.
I’m trying to think what you could get away with in U.S. that would be illegal in U.K.
Can US citizens be extradited?
From January 2004 to the end of December 2011, seven known US citizens were extradited from the US to the UK. No US citizen was extradited for an alleged crime while the person was based in the US. The US embassy in London reports that, as of April 2013, 38 individuals have been extradited from the US to the UK.
Yeah in that case you'd simply be prosecuted in the US, if it was an offense in the US (which might be state dependent)
I *think* you get extradited, if you committed a crime in a foreign country and it's also an offence in the country where you're resident or fled to, in order to escape.
While all that sounds feasible, it prompted me to try to think of something that’s illegal in U.K., but not illegal in the U.S.
Virtually everything that’s illegal in one country is illegal in the other, but then I thought of motorcycle crash helmets.
They’re mandatory in U.K., but only in 19 States.
So taking the extradition laws to an extreme, it sounds like, (but can’t be), if a Brit rode a motorcycle sans helmet in the U.S., he would be prosecuted in the U.S. for contravening U.K. law.
I think I’ll have a lay down, before I explode from over thinking!
There's loads of obvious ones - being in posession of a firearm, and things like knives in public, but also lots of mundane ones like animal cruelty and stuff - I'm a dog lover and I know the practice of cutting and taping dog ears to make them look more aggressive is illegal in the UK but not in the US. But yeah I imagine nobody ever got extradited for taping dog ears
I read what you said the first time, you're wrong, the US has multiple extradition treaties, these include the extradition of US citizens.
This is the post:
Firstly - the US does extradite its citizens, for example, it's agreed to do this in a UK-US extradition treaty - you're wrong to claim otherwise. Treaty linked to below - please show me where the general exemption for citizens is?
https://assets.publishing.service.g.../uploads/attachment_data/file/243246/7146.pdf
Secondly, it *has* already extradited its citizens, you're wrong to claim it hasn't - here response to a Home Office FOI request - 7 US citizens were extradited from the US to the UK between 2004 and 2011:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/requ...04/attach/3/Document.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1
So like I said, and that you've conveniently removed from your quote, I looked it up. It's rare, but does happen. Excellent use of the delete/backspace key to try and make me look foolish.
Well, I didn't delete anything, that wasn't there, I guess I had the browser window open already - perhaps you should have checked your facts before posting and assuming I simply hadn't read your claim, which clearly wasn't too hard to follow, I'm not trying to make you look foolish, you made a claim, it was wrong - I pointed that out and rather than checking you doubled down on it and assumed I hadn't read your claim correctly.
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At least Prince Andrew can't sweat over it. As he explained previously.
You gonna watch out for the dowie edit man. They are plentiful and lightening quick.
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In the good old days, i.e. somewhere around the 12th-16th centuries, Andrew would've simply succumb to injuries sustained in an 'hunting accident' and the case would be closed.
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In the old days this wouldn't be a problem.
Anyone that thought it might be a problem would swiftly find their head on a pike.
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Actually, it seems there might be an angle here, as far as the US related claims are concerned, if he was a working Royal & trade envoy at the time then he might well have had some level of diplomatic immunity when traveling overseas, or at least his lawyers might try to argue that:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ay-diplomatic-immunity-sex-abuse-lawsuit.html
That hardly gets rid of the obvious reputational damage though and also doesn't preclude him from being potentially investigated or pursued in court in the UK over his actions here either.
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What crime is he suspected of committing in the UK?
I don't think he is a suspect in either country right now, it's just a civil case at the moment.
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rape?
^^^ that too!