The Royals

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You make it sound like only those who have no desire to succeed fail. You really do talk a lot of piffle.
My brother in law went bust three times trying to make a go of his offshore medical supplies business. He had every desire to succeed. For the sake of his family and their security he took employment.

True, it is obviously better to try and fail then to not try at all. What you will find though is that the experience will have made him stronger, wiser, and smarter, and I am sure one day he will make it doing one thing or another. Maybe he could try the business online, or bring in a connected partner whilst still working? I have a medical supplies company locally and they employ tons of people to ship and package every day.

I was simply referring to those who have zero desire to do well, and are happy to just float in life, and smile, cheer and clap when the royals drive past in a Bentley (or something) like complete simpletons

 

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I drive a supercharged Aston Martin One-77 with supercharger belt made by Gucci as a special item for me because I am such a high earner.

I started with a groat and easily turned that into eleventy million pounds in a month by walking dogs on eBay. Anyone can do it. There's no reason not to.

Though your comment is tongue in cheek. Interestingly, I am soon to buy a nearly adult cow. My tenant wants £900 for it, to me this is cheaper than buying an adult from market at around £1500-2k, and it will produce milk during it’s life. Though there is no guarantee it won’t die of disease (in which case I can kiss my hard earned £900 goodbye) but in future years it will produce more cows for free as the land is able to support the cows. My tenant says that’s how he started off, I know nothing about dairy farming so I told him to keep any milk to pay for its upkeep. I just want the cow for asset purposes so I can start selling them years from now as a side business (any reasonable offer accepted - lolz!). Will it work? No idea, but worth a punt and I am sure I will at least make my initial investment back (hopefully!) Won't be enough to buy an Aston Martin with gucci belt, but something is better than nothing

Nothing ventured, nothing gained I say!.. Plus I still have my just above minimum wage job to fall back on if it all goes pear shaped

 

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I've gotta admit that even by GD standards, going from discussing the royals to buying a cow is quite the leap

He did mention goat first

 

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ummmm read it again......he mentioned a groat. not a goat.

Yes, but I'm assuming it was just a typo Who knows?

 

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One of your friends should go into bulls milk production, I hear its worth a lot more.

I heard that too, it's starting to become quite popular according to wifey. May need to research it further to confirm if I can adapt to it

 

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i doubt it's a typo, a groat is an old coin. he took one coin and turned it into millions - as per the toungue in cheek quote. no mention of livestock.

My bad, never heard of that term being used before

 

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I would love to see a top revenue earner meeting of cryo's friends at Chris Wilson's pub.

Scrap metal guy wins hands down He's bought property in Spain, black maserati (daily driver), and range rover (evening/weekend functions car with the family) and very likely has a healthy bank balance!

Quite good money in scrap copper strangely, probably because consumers buy loads of stuff with unnecessary HDMI cables etc. included in the box, and then it gets dumped along with used corporate IT cables (kettle leads, hundreds of metres of redundant cat 5 etc.), electrician's scraps, copper water cylinders from refurbs converting to combi boiler systems etc. as it costs them a fortune to skip

 

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No, I meant "groat". Although I suppose a goat would also work in that context, a goat was worth more than a groat even back when they had groats.

A groat is an old coin, no longer used. It was worth a small amount of money back when it was used and lingered afterwards as a general term for a very small amount of money. I can't remember what it was worth off the top of my head, so I'll look it up...4p. More than I expected - 4p wasn't a completely trivial amount back then. That would have been a good day's wages in those days.

Now I'm curious as to the price of a goat in late medieval England. That will probably be harder to find...no, couldn't find it with a quick look. The closest I could get was a ewe at 12p, but that might or might not be similar in price to a goat. A ewe might have been less expensive because there were a huge number of sheep in late medieval England or it might have been more expensive because sheep were valuable. I don't know how highly goats were valued in late medieval England. What would they be for? Sheep were mainly for wool, which was always something you could sell easily (it was the biggest export product of England for a long time - the wealth and power of England was built to a large extent on wool). Goats? What were they for.

Anyway...I meant "groat".

Very informative, assume you are doing a history major?

 

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He has the internet.

Possibly this, but a lot of info on the net is shaky to say the least, normally this is something taught which is why I ask?

 

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I read a lot and have an amateur interest in a few periods of history (high medieval England, late medieval England, late republican and early imperial Rome). I don't have a formal education in history past O level (which was almost entirely about 19th century England and somehow managed to make it boring).

Good stuff, though history is fascinating. I feel it is important not to get stuck in the past, along with any outdated traditions, and to treat history as just that, as something to learn from going forward

The last thing you want to do is to bow, wave, cheer, and clap at people wildly and incessantly that you do not even know or likely to meet, because you think they are nearby.

Even the taxpayer is fed up with the ongoing costs of this ‘privilege’:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Meghan-Harrys-2-4million-Frogmore-refurb.html

 

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So every one of his 17 friends made their fortune in 2 years.

Seems like 2 years is the magic number. If you haven't made it in 2 years, you're obviously doing something wrong.

I especially like the friend who:

* started collecting scrap metal
* 2 years later earning 1 million per year.

This guy must have found a **** ton of scrap metal just lying around. Wonder if he was the guy lifting all the train tracks up country...

Ask any entrepreneur on timeframes to make it

Actually, he knew a warehouse guy who had corporate IT surplus in their warehouse of various types and was just dumping in skips at £120 a time plus labour and it was costing him a fortune. He offered to take his trolley loads of IT cables only for free with multiple trips in his car to a local recycler, that's where he made his first bucks. He then advertised without too much success, but started approaching local businesses whenever he saw a business skip with the right stuff by scouring industrial units, after 7 months hard graft, he became a small recycler offering free collection! He hired a driver and van to collect copper, bookings grew incrementally into regular contracts, soon, electricians were dumping at his yard and builders with copper cylinders when he offered a token payment to dump. I believe he made his first million just after 1 and a half years, as other metals started being dumped as well, but copper is the main trade, and makes 70-120k net per month depending on what is being dumped

 

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I knew a guy who spent all day chewing elastic bands.

2 years later he was selling chewed elastic bands and making 3 billion per second.

True story.

Or how about this for an idea, you make a good quality elastic figure called 'Elasto Man' with a simple wood core, and take to craft/trade shows, get a few orders and make a few quid - refine the product based on feedback. Then pay an SEO company to market custom elastic made to order and measure products with no size limit with your sample best seller as the figurehead and cool string type bent over logo If it goes viral, expect your first million, but only if it goes viral e.g. offering it to Dragon's Den for % share or riding the free advertising, otherwise expect 3-25k from corporates/hobbists annually if you can bolt on colourful printed backgrounds and metal stands/bases as additional extras with appealing messages such 'In life, you can succeed, just be elastic!', and then invest (with a business loan from the bank) in an app called 'Elasto' marketed by Elasto Design Bureau (your company name) to design your own figure in the form of a simple string game (stretch and drop in to place with the fingers to make it playful), with user rankings for the best designs and best rated which you can strangely order along with free competitions to win a limited edition 'RED', then yes, in 2 years you could probably make something of it (if you excuse the pun). All you need is elastic bands

The potential billion.. get an independent developer to make a free to play elastic online multiplayer game called 'Elastro - the coming war', followed by 'Generations' for kids using an existing engine to design your own world with elastic bands to build bridges etc. and purchasable upgrades such as elastic army officer/general to protect your elastic creations from destruction by the other players trying to take you over, and the ability to purchase an elastic jail to generate income from the government with further purchasable upgrades to make the prison bars stronger instead of the usual off the shelf elastic (to stop your prisoner from escaping by stretching the bars), though the other side can purchase the platium item in the game - 10 second scissors, then you may have 'chance' at your first billion, worked for lego/minecraft Then you can be as wealthy as the Royals - Angilion, take note.

I know, I am a genius - I am going to copyright it, and sell the rights

 

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That scrap story certainly wouldn’t work around London, the market for IT waste and scrap is absolutely saturated and mega competitive, and that is
Legitimate companies...not even mentioned the ****** yet who would have any metal from any skip gone in seconds without permission anyway.

Agreed, sometimes, it is just a case of an unsaturated market location.

 

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PS That story doesn't add up because builders, plumbers et al know very well the scrap value of copper and other metals. I know a couple plumbers. They sure as **** aren't dumping valuable scrap on someone's doorstep out of charity.

My friend gives them a token payment based on weight, but the corporate dumps are his regular contracts thanks to EU directives.

 

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That scrap story certainly wouldn’t work around London, the market for IT waste and scrap is absolutely saturated and mega competitive, and that is
Legitimate companies...not even mentioned the ****** yet who would have any metal from any skip gone in seconds without permission anyway.

Though not legal, ever wonder what they make tax free every year nicking bikes from skips. 2 x ****** at £130/day at 7 days a week may be able to clear nearly 100k cash, more if the family get involved, though probably not as lucrative as dealing recreational drugs

 

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The problem here is that the dog owner should they be in full time employment and requiring these services would be expected to pay ~£300 a week for your friends services, I don't know anyone that would pay ~£1,200 a month for a dog sitting service. Let alone 8 clients with that sort of money in the north in a close locale. If I was the dog owner and had that much to spend on a dog sitting service I would simply employ a butler / house sitter.

As strange as it seems, it was on the news about some other dog walker abusing dogs, and other walkers blasting them for giving them a bad name, indirectly revealing their true income in a national rag in the comments section.

The truth is some people have money to spend, my wife alone makes £450/week near part time babysitting by the same parent. Go figure. I don’t know how they afford it personally.

The royals are in the same rag daily for luxury private flights and constant overspending whilst telling us what not to do for the environment, when doing the exact opposite, and also doing promotions for Chinese businessman for yet more money. Everyone is in business, it’s the taxpayer that loses out, so I want an opt-out to spend on my own family. I’m ok with a 70k a year salaried head of state after Liz, with government state building for lodgings, and the PM as commander in chief. Viva la republic post brexit, for the people, by the people!