The Smiths

elroberto · 4 Sep 2008 at 15:31

Bubo said:
On reflection I have heard of Jimmy Page and Robert Plant but I had to jog my memory to link them to Led Zeppelin. But I could couldn't even give you the initials of anyone else in the band. Basically I'm using your argument that having anonymous members in a band precludes them from being great, since I could say the same thing about Led Zep. Clearly you're into Led Zep and I'm into The Smiths but it doesn't mean band is any more significant than the other cos their drummer is a nobody.

Not saying you have to know who someone is for them to be any good but do you think people listen to the Smiths and think wow, there's a good drummer or mmm, nice bassline. Nope, didn't think so. But even people who were not that into Zep's brand of music would usually acknowledge that they were seriously talented musicians. I'm not saying the Smiths were rubbish, just want a real sense of proportion.

PS. Must have been the first time ever Bonzo's drumming has been described as anonymous.

Bubo · 4 Sep 2008 at 16:42

elroberto said:
But even people who were not that into Zep's brand of music would usually acknowledge that they were seriously talented musicians.

If you take "not that into" and move it down to "not really bothered about at all, could probably only name Stairway to Heavan as a Led Zep song", that's where I'm at and I have to say I can't acknowledge whether they are good or not. I know they have a reputation but I simply don't go out of my way to listen to them. Sorry. Probably before my time anyway and muscial tastes differ and all that.

elroberto said:
PS. Must have been the first time ever Bonzo's drumming has been described as anonymous.

I take it this Bonzo geezer was in Led Zepelin?

elroberto · 4 Sep 2008 at 19:30

Yes, he was the drummer. And they were a bit before my time as well...didn't stumble across their stuff until about 10 years ago.

And no-ones mentioned one of the greatest manchester bands yet, The Buzzcocks!

my_computer · 4 Sep 2008 at 19:53

elroberto said:
Yes, he was the drummer. And they were a bit before my time as well...didn't stumble across their stuff until about 10 years ago.

And no-ones mentioned one of the greatest manchester bands yet, The Fall!

elroberto · 4 Sep 2008 at 20:11

They haven't really done much though, have they!

The Big T · 4 Sep 2008 at 21:25

I hate the ******* smiths, one of the worst bands in history in my opinion.

chrisd · 4 Sep 2008 at 23:34

Bubo said:
I know they have a reputation but I simply don't go out of my way to listen to them.

Go out of your way.

helmet · 5 Sep 2008 at 00:14

Bubo said:
I take it this Bonzo geezer was in Led Zepelin?

Bubo, here is a video of John Bonham. It's worth a watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_fwcFjzyik&feature=related

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bonham

~J~ · 5 Sep 2008 at 00:54

After 25 years I can still listen to a Joy Division / New Order album from start to finish and feel a million emotions throughout.

25 seconds after The Smiths and I just wanna switch it off and doing something else.

Utter crap then, utter crap now.

taz488 · 5 Sep 2008 at 09:05

Tim said:
The Stone Roses

why do people rave over this band?

[DOD]Asprilla · 5 Sep 2008 at 09:28

taz488 said:
why do people rave over this band?

No idea.

Don't get me wrong The Stone Roses produced one of the defining albums of the decate in The Stone Roses (an album I love and listen to regularly), but everything the did was much of a muchness.

The Smiths would make my top ten (probably top 5 with The Rolling Stones and David Bowie interchanging at one and two); The Stone Roses would make my top twenty, maybe nine or ten.

Hedge · 5 Sep 2008 at 12:34

The Big T said:
I hate the ******* smiths, one of the worst bands in history in my opinion.

Dont talk such utter crap.

theres bands out there that i dont like, but i appreciate what they have done... dont be such a clown.

chrisd · 5 Sep 2008 at 14:18

Hedge said:
Dont talk such utter crap.

Yeah, how dare he have an opinion :mad:

Hedge · 5 Sep 2008 at 14:27

chrisd said:
Yeah, how dare he have an opinion

its fair enough having an opinion. but to say they are one of the worst bands in history.. thats just a stupid comment.

he might not like them, but he cant say they are one of the worst bands in history when its totally clear its not

Noel Gallagher · 5 Sep 2008 at 14:30

Smiths are great, I like this guys cover of Light that never goes out.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4dr8Iy3_zZ0

chrisd · 5 Sep 2008 at 14:59

Hedge said:
its fair enough having an opinion. but to say they are one of the worst bands in history.. thats just a stupid comment.

he might not like them, but he cant say they are one of the worst bands in history when its totally clear its not

Surely he can say anything? It's his opinion :confused:

Bubo · 5 Sep 2008 at 15:33

Has anyone heard Tatu's version of How soon is now? Its actually pretty damn good.

Hedge · 5 Sep 2008 at 16:02

chrisd said:
Surely he can say anything? It's his opinion

dont know why you need the confused smiley, nothing confusing about it.

a decent opinion would be "i hate the smiths.. their songs never appealed to me at all"

not "i hate the ******* smiths, on of the worst bands in history"

thats an opinion.. but its a totally crap one

The Big T · 5 Sep 2008 at 18:18

Hedge said:
Dont talk such utter crap.

theres bands out there that i dont like, but i appreciate what they have done... dont be such a clown.

I'm not being a clown, I do really hate them and I can have my opinion.

The Big T · 5 Sep 2008 at 18:20

Hedge said:
its fair enough having an opinion. but to say they are one of the worst bands in history.. thats just a stupid comment.

he might not like them, but he cant say they are one of the worst bands in history when its totally clear its not

Again.. my opinion. I never said "the whole world thinks they are the worst band in history" I said I thought it.

Anyway.. Stone Roses.. yes please