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Well it's tweaks and enhancements to existing features rather than a major "Hey look at all this new stuff" upgrade. But there are enough additions to warrant the new major version number.
Windows 7 is a rebranded, refined Windows Vista. Your point?
its what's been told on a few forums, plus Apple used this method when Upgrading from Panther to Tiger and Tiger to Leopard.
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(although I still have more questions)In the shops you can buy a retail 10.5 disk. Are you saying this only installs on machines with a pre-existing OSX version as an upgrade or clean install, after detecting your previous install?
Say today I totally zapped my machine and had no OS disks. Are you saying that buying a 10.6 (next month) or 10.5 disk from an Apple store would not be any good as I am not "upgrading".
I realise that 99% of machines would have a pre-existing OS X on their, but am just wondering what happens if you don't, or wish to approach the new OS with a blank/new Hard disk.
rp2000
As well as upgrade, presumably?
That is why I am confused when people say this is the same as the Tiger > Leopard upgrade/release.
Edit: Saw you ninja update
rp2000
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In the shops you can buy a retail 10.5 disk. Are you saying this only installs on machines with a pre-existing OSX version as an upgrade or clean install, after detecting your previous install?
Say today I totally zapped my machine and had no OS disks. Are you saying that buying a 10.6 (next month) or 10.5 disk from an Apple store would not be any good as I am not "upgrading".
I realise that 99% of machines would have a pre-existing OS X on their, but am just wondering what happens if you don't, or wish to approach the new OS with a blank/new Hard disk.
rp2000
You will need to buy the Full version which comes with Ilife 09 (No word on release date or pricing)
leopard upgrade discs do exist, here's a old blog about upgrading from Tiger to Leopard using the upgrade disc http://www.tuaw.com/2007/11/01/leopard-spotlight-the-upgrade-disc-gripe/
OK, that's interesting, thanks.
So as I now read it.
There was a version of Leopard sold specifically to upgrade Tiger, I assume this is for people who bought a Mac with Tiger installed _just_ before Leopard was released. That wasn't in the shops, it was one that you had to order online and required proof of purchase of a recent Mac with Tiger.
That's going to be the same as the £7.95 version that's been talked about in this thread.
The difference this time around is that upgrade is being released generally and is the one discussed at WWDC for $29.
If you go into an Apple Store now and buy Leopard, you can only get the full version. You can't buy an 'upgrade' DVD, although this version will install new or upgrade anyway.
There will be two versions of Snow Leopard in the shops, the $29 upgrade and the full product at $129 (I'm using dollar price here because there's been no UK pricing released yet). The $29 one will probably require a previous installation of Leopard although hopefully it will give the option to say 'insert your Leopard DVD for validation' and then go on and install on a bare drive. The $129 version will install without needing Leopard.
I could be well off-track here but that's how it all seems to me after further investigation.
Sums up my previous confusion.
The way I see it how can the $29 version do a clean install if that is what you pay the extra £100 for? As yet, I have not seen an OS install that asks you to insert old media for validation. In Windows you often see the upgrade version and full versions but the upgrade never does clean installs.
As you can tell, I would prefer to do a clean install with no old files left. I guess no-one will know for certain until someone receives one of these "upgrade" discs, whether that will do the job.
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Because the move to full 64bit, Grand Central and the many, many other features are just a Service Pack. Get out Troll.
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Upgrade disks can do a clean install. I have the Leopard update disk (got my MacBook just before Leopard was released) and every time I do a re-install (twice in three years and one of those was to move from Tiger to Leopard!) I have done a clean install...
From the way here is worded, the only "full" version that will be sold is in the Mac Box Set.
Of course this is me just deducing from the information given:
If you are on Tiger, your only option is the Mac Box Set
Something therefore must be in place to stop you going Tiger > Snow Leopard without the Box Set
Snow Leopard must do some sort of check that you have Leopard
This is a slight pain for me because I always do a clean install. And out of habit I tend to delete the the partition in Disk Utility and recreate it. Then go on to do an Erase & Install. Unless the check for Leopard is before it reaches the main install window which would be fine then.
So yeah, confusing for the moment
As said above, we won't know for sure until the product is released. I have to say that if there's a pack containing Snow Leopard, iWork 09 and iLife 09 then I'll be tempted by that. I have iWork 09 with my laptop but I'm only licenced for 08 on my Mac Pro and I'd like to switch from Office to iWork when I get the new OS.
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Unfortunately the full version of Leopard or Snow Leopard does not include iLife '09. You'd have to buy the Mac Box Set which includes Leopard or Snow Leopard (soon), iLife '09 and iWork '09 or buy iLife '09 on its own.
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