The standards of Policing

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There are a lot of videos about auditing and the amount of police time I've seen wasted due to businesses calling out people flying drones is ridiculous, when it is perfectly legal.

To give the basics.
< 250g drone, you can fly anywhere except a few restricted areas , prisons etc.
Closer than 50m, no limits.

I understand English won't be her first language but she is a police officer and they mixed up his drone weight 250g with how many employees are in a building.
 
Gets arrested for 'causing anxiety' because he retweeted an image. But the person who originally posted it, and whose post he retweeted, isn't even spoken to.


It truly is peak clown world.
 

this next one is like some fraud/deception and I'm surprised a huge fuss wasn't made about it

Police tasked with cracking down on crime in a tough neighbourhood have been accused of 'superficial' patrolling after being spotted pulling up in their cars, taking photographs of themselves, then driving away.
literally pretending to police areas :rolleyes:


Pride police cars are ridiculous and I bet someone got paid silly money for designing them, there's nearly always 2 parked in Newcastle city centre.

no officers with them just parked up on display woke signalling
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there's usually another car with he same pride crap parked directly with it.

waste of police vehicles
 
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Gets arrested for 'causing anxiety' because he retweeted an image. But the person who originally posted it, and whose post he retweeted, isn't even spoken to.


It truly is peak clown world.
Case of one person being reported and the other not.

The police is a ticket system and if you're not reporting literally everything the chance of additional workload being volunteered is highly unlikely to occur.
 
Gets arrested for 'causing anxiety' because he retweeted an image. But the person who originally posted it, and whose post he retweeted, isn't even spoken to.


It truly is peak clown world.
They certainly take their sweet time to arrest the various just stop oil protestors, surely if causing anxiety is now a criminal offence then all of those just stop oil folk and their ilk, should be immediately arrested for the anxiety they've caused, rather than being allowed to do their protest for x number of hours first.
 
Currently pursuing a complaint with the police over their complete lack of action when I reported a crime. I even provided them with solid evidence and photographic proof of the perpetrator. Even one of their own senior officers has so far referred to their response as 'lacklustre'.
 
They certainly take their sweet time to arrest the various just stop oil protestors, surely if causing anxiety is now a criminal offence then all of those just stop oil folk and their ilk, should be immediately arrested for the anxiety they've caused, rather than being allowed to do their protest for x number of hours first.
Then you'd have to arrest the car owners giving people asthma which I would be totally down for.
 
Then you'd have to arrest the car owners giving people asthma which I would be totally down for.
Yup and the cyclists because when they ride past me as a pedestrian, I get anxiety that they will ride into me. You know, what with causing anxiety now being a criminal offence and all.

Come to think of it, when I pop to the local chippy , I get anxiety watching them batter the fish that they will drop it, so they need nicking too :)
 
It seems to me, at least in my area, that police mainly go for things they can issue a fixed penalty notice for. Anything involving referring charges to the CPS is avoided as much as possible.


I've personally known a case of criminal damage & leaving the scene (vehicle collision) which had high quality CCTV (HD) showing VRM and perpetrator's face, independant witness statements & forensics (paint transfer) be thrown out, to the dismay of officers,because the CPS stated there was a lack of evidence.

Of course you've also got the issue of politicial correctness with a majority of the higher-ups not wanting to 'rock the multi-cultural boat' (direct quote from a detective) which has lead to thousands of young children being raped on an industrial scale by ethnic minorities.
 

this next one is like some fraud/deception and I'm surprised a huge fuss wasn't made about it


literally pretending to police areas :rolleyes:


Pride police cars are ridiculous and I bet someone got paid silly money for designing them, there's nearly always 2 parked in Newcastle city centre.

no officers with them just parked up on display woke signalling
17COmlH.jpg

there's usually another car with he same pride crap parked directly with it.

waste of police vehicles
The 7 in 10 officers "not making an arrest" is probably rubbish or the Mail being it's typical deceitful and misleading self*, given they're almost certainly going to be including any and all officers (and likely support staff given the accuracy of their normal reporting) in which case there are a large number of officers who simply don't do arrests as standard because of the sort of job they do, and many others probably won't be included in "this officer made an arrest" because they were working with a partner whose name went on the paperwork (or for example if you work murders/major drug cases there might be dozens of hundreds of officers involved for weeks at a go, only one or two of them will officially be named as the one making the arrest).
It also probably doesn't allow for the fact that many offences that are extremely common don't usually require arrests, for example the vast majority of motoring offences do not involve an arrest because they're dealt with things like FPN's, the same is true for huge numbers of other non motoring offences.
Indeed it sounds like they're getting in to support the idea that police are magically going to immediately start to solve 20% more of all crimes because it's obvious that the only reason they've not been solving them previously was because they didn't want to.

As for those vehicles, those look like typical support unit or tech unit vehicles, and yes they do tend to get parked up next to each other a lot of the time, because they're often carrying equipment or had additional officers, and oddly enough when the officers need to go into a building they tend not to drive the van through the doors...
I'll frequently see parked up police vehicles in my town without officers in, usually because the officers have used it to *gasps* travel, and then got out to do whatever it is they're doing, my highstreet even has a permanent marked spot for police vehicles in what is a very good location for them to attend anywhere on the high street but be able to get back to it and head out again fast if needed (this is in addition to the spaces they've got outside the nearby firestation to allow officers to use their facilities as the local police station was shuttered about 15 years ago and the nearest one is now 30-45 minutes away).
It's almost like the police use cars and vans to move around and leave them empty when parked up.

Also "patrolling" can mean walking on foot, it can also mean driving around the area, now if you've got a large area and very few officers available due to say 12 years of constant cuts in police officers, and cuts in support staff meaning that your remaining officers are now doing jobs that used to be done by cheaper civvies**, then you either don't have your officers show up at all, have them show up and spend a long time say walking down one street at a time, or you have them popping up all over the area and in this day and age you might want to have them take pictures to post on the various social media platforms the police use in the hope that the combination of showing up at random and advertising it helps to make up for the fact you don't have enough officers to flood the area by making it obvious that they're in the area (you are basically making them as obvious as possible).
Personally I'd much rather have more officers on foot to be obvious, but given the lack of officers that would likely cause serious issues with responding to anything that happened anything more than a couple of hundred meters away.


*Usually around the last line of a DM clickbait article about waste or overspending, or people "not doing their jobs" they'll have just enough of the truth to save them getting sued (they hope).

**Anyone else remember when the government kept telling us the cuts to the police funding were fine and dandy because it wasn't officers in uniform getting cut? ignore the fact that a £30k a year officer who has cost 10's of thousands and months/years to train is now doing the job of an £20k civvie who could do it faster and more efficiently (as it was literally their only job and so might have been doing it to support an entire team of officers).
 
Currently pursuing a complaint with the police over their complete lack of action when I reported a crime. I even provided them with solid evidence and photographic proof of the perpetrator. Even one of their own senior officers has so far referred to their response as 'lacklustre'.

Was this when your generator got nicked? Any joy getting it back?
 
Professional **** stirrer meets clueless COP.

The guys being an *******, a little courtesy and consideration and he'd likely get his drone footage without the grief. But of course, that wouldn't get him as many views.

I think his loophole needs looking at, it may technically be legal, but should it be?

I wouldn't want some random person filming over my property.
 
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They've intentionally built the drones below a certain weight so that certain rules don't apply to them.
As have multiple drone companies. I wouldn't call it a loophole, it's just making something to which certain laws apply and others don't.

A few grams heavier and he wouldn't be allowed to fly over there.
A law that the video poster knows and that the police don't know. I'm not defending him, anyone with 'audit' in their YouTube channel is generally only there to cause trouble but in this instance, he's correct. I didn't watch the entire video but the part I saw, the officer wasn't listening to what he was trying to tell her. It would only have taken a few seconds of research for either of the two officers to find the updated law but they didn't seem to have any interest in doing so.
 
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