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The theory (fact) of evolution
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Good point, we have museums full of dinosaur bones from 65+ million years ago you'd think we'd have an abundance of fossils of our much more recent human ancestors.
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this is the dumbest thing ever, if that's a dumb thing for a designer to do surely it's an even dumber thing to say we evolved this way, that means at some point in our (or our ancestral creatures) existence we viewed the world upside down either because the retina had not developed to be 'upside-down' or because our brain had not developed the ability to flip the image right way up. why would a creature evolve in to something as preposterous as that and in what way would the ability to view the world upside down be an advantage?! (unless of course we evolved from bats)
Evolution is a fact, the theory lies in how it works, hence The Theory of Evolution Through Natural Selection.
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It is a scientific fact ie. Fact is used in a wider sense to mean any hypothesis for which there is overwhelming evidence.
This is what evolution by natural selection is! If Richard Dawkins and all the other leading evolutionists says its a scientific fact then im more inclined to believe them than someone off of this message board. They are leading experts from leading institutes who have studied it their entire careers. Evolution is scientific fact by the above definition.
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perhaps your disbelief is why your punctuation and indeed ability to craft a legible sentence suffers?
Have a look in to fossilisation, how it happens, why it happens and when it is likely. That should answer your question.
Is it being narrow minded to generally accept the version of events that has the most evidence for it?
The way I see it there are pretty much four alternatives for creation.
1. God has always existed and created the universe.
2. God popped into existence and created the universe.
3. The universe has always existed (in one form or another).
4. The universe popped into existence.
All of them see to present problems but as God hasn't seen fit to provide any evidence of his existence that I can accept I will go for either 3 or 4 as most likely. In truth it makes no difference to how I live my life as if even 1 or 2 are how it happened God seems to be pretty absent now.
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Ummm we do, we have thousands of fossils from 65 million years ago to date,(geologically speaking) additionally if your on about very recent history then you'd best read up on what a fossil is.
TBH most of that goes over my head.
Is this just duplication? or an actual change in chromosomes?
Say a plant has 4 chromosomes have we ever seen this increase to say 5.
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Yep, but no one can say with any authority at this moment in time that evolution provided all life on earth from a single cell organism or otherwise.
I would have thought it would be the other way around. As evolution is a bit of chance mixed in with some natural selection based on that chance if it works, it works. However a designer would have to purposefully design it in a half arsed way. Is the current method of childbirth also the best a designer could come up with? If we are designed then said designer really needs to have another go.
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all the, now debunked, scientific 'facts' people used to believe in that have since been disproved were taught and theorised by the most eminent minds of the time and yet we now believe them to be wrong.
any scientist who approaches you with a 'scientific fact' is a charlatan and should be espoused as such.
we have seen plants with 2 sets of chromosomes increase to 3 (the edible banana iirc) but they're usually infertile because they need pairs to actually replicate.
They can't reproduce without pairs.
But aside from changes in the size of the fruits etc i don't think there are ever that many changes.
It's pretty much all down to Mankind's need to explain everything. When an explanation isn't available then he will rely on faith for his answers. If you look at the Universe at a quantum level then even the concept of reality becomes blurred. For every 'fact' we can put explanation to, there are countless ones we cannot.
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How old is the theory of evolution.....200 years ??? This is not long enough to see if anykind of evolution takes place let alone use this as a base to prove or disprove some academic guesswork.
I really believe its just as it title sugest a ''theory' and as we all know a theory is just the posh term for 'idea'.
I really believe its just as it title sugest a ''theory' and as we all know a theory is just the posh term for 'idea'.
Sorry take that as pairs, so say 4 pairs to 5 pairs.
Or is this Polyploidy things just duplication of the same data?