The thought police come knocking...

GGizmo said:
It amazes me that there are people on the thread trying every angle to excuse police intimidation.
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Because some of us aren't scared of our own shadow and see bogeymen under every bed.

Within the multitude of my interactions with the police, this wouldn't even register on my 'concern-o-meter'.

JonRGV250 said:
She didn’t though, as well you know.
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I didn't say she did, I thought it was obvious that it was an example of why you were being disingenuously handwaving with the "just asking to resign" bit and why I then cited it's equivalence to how you act online.

JonRGV250 said:
Even if there was more to it, it still wasn’t (obviously) serious enough for the police to charge her with anything, otherwise they would have done.
Surely the police have all the details?
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Well, quite, which is why they didn't do anything apart from inform her a complaint had been made and seeing if she had any questions.

I'm not sure what everyone is getting bent out of shape about tbh.
 
She was on GMB this morning, unbelievable.
They even had an ex Police Chief in the studio who was basically saying what the Police did was correct.
To be fair I think it was only when the woman showed them the full thread they realised a mistake had been made and the person complaining was a big baby.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
She was on GMB this morning, unbelievable.
They even had an ex Police Chief in the studio who was basically saying what the Police did was correct.
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Well, I guess yes, looking into a complaint made is the right thing to do

SexyGreyFox said:
To be fair I think it was only when the woman showed them the full thread they realised a mistake had been made and the person complaining was a big baby.
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So, what you're saying is the police didn't have the full facts before speaking the the lady?

Hmm, that contradicts the assertions by GGizmo and Jon that the police knew everything before going to see her.
 
Werewolf said:
There is a very definite legal meaning to "no further action"/"no action taken", it means no legal action, not that they just ignored the allegation and didn't bother to look at it. I can imagine most of the same people complaining about the police looking into this complaint would be up in arms if the police completely ignored a complaint they made.
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What he said ^^^

Complaint made to police so the police have a duty to respond to the complaints. They do not have the ability to ignore complaints that even they may believe is a pile of nonsense, and rightly so else you would have some officers just closing down reports without even looking at them.
 
Richie said:
What he said ^^^

Complaint made to police so the police have a duty to respond to the complaints. They do not have the ability to ignore complaints that even they may believe is a pile of nonsense, and rightly so else you would have some officers just closing down reports without even looking at them.
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There's a lot of people ITT who have nothing to fear from the 'thought police' ;) :p
 
bloodiedathame said:
I agree that something needs to change. The amount that police have to deal with is beyond stupid, and all this 'easy' stuff gets done first (to get it done), leaving no time for anything else.

The police need to stop getting involved in digital conversations unless there is a serious and obvious risk to life.
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But then you would have the same DM-ragebait-guzzling-keyboard-driblers complaining that the police didn't do anything in XYZ situation because these processes were removed; the police can't win either way.

Increase in staff to handle the workloads seems the most logical step but forces would need massive increases in budgets.
 
Freakbro said:
Hmm, that contradicts the assertions by GGizmo and Jon that the police knew everything before going to see her.
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Not really, I said “surely the police have all the information?”
Maybe the councillor fabricated what was actually posted?, who knows
 
Freakbro said:
Within the multitude of my interactions with the police, this wouldn't even register on my 'concern-o-meter'.
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The police have always been good to me too.

But I don't like this Americanisation of the police were now they have very little autonomy to use their own common sense.

You are probably right that they are now compelled to make some form of action.

I'm just saying this isn't the path they should be prioritising in my opinion.
 
JonRGV250 said:
Not really, I said “surely the police have all the information?”
Maybe the councillor fabricated what was actually posted?, who knows
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Exactly, that's the point. There's some very strong opinions and assertions of Stasi/Thought Police when we don't have all the details, when in fact we're just back to

Freakbro said:
"Police receive complaint about harassment, look into it, find it's unwarranted and take no action"
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:p
 
"Police receive complaint about burglary, look into it, find it's unwarranted and take no action"

"Police receive complaint about extremism, look into it, find it's unwarranted and take no action*"

"Police receive complaint about one of their own whipping their meat out at McDs, look into it, find it's unwarranted and take no action"

Taking the Police in the round, along with other organisations that are supposed to be their to support and guide them, they are currently a ****ing joke.

*unless it's "far right" or a "non-crime hate incident".
 
JonRGV250 said:
Indeed, but surely a letter would have sufficed?
What’s done is done, but the optics aren’t great.
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My thought's exactly, or even an invitation down to the station.

It does not need officers at the door. They know what they are doing, it's performative and having the rozzers round, with a car outside the house gets people in the area talking. It's not discreet and is done entirely as a way of communicating "oi, you better not be thinking these things, they can and will be brought to our attention".
 
Fubsy said:
My thought's exactly, or even an invitation down to the station.

It does not need officers at the door. They know what they are doing, it's performative and having the rozzers round, with a car outside the house gets people in the area talking. It's not discreet and is done entirely as a way of communicating "oi, you better not be thinking these things, they can and will be brought to our attention".
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How can a thought be brought to the polices attention exactly?
 
This is a blatant attempt to stop people criticizing the government.
Say anything they don't like and they will have police come round to talk to you.
The thing is we can also play the complaints game
 
Freakbro said:
So, to break the article down more succinctly.

The rise of genuine threats against officials means reported incidents get investigated more diligently.

A complaint of harassment had been made against her.

The police have a duty to inform her that a complaint has been made against her.

Police inform women of the complaint, get her statement and tell her she's not in any trouble and hasn't broken any laws.

Gutter press make click bait article. [The main outlets running with this seem the Mail, Telegraph and GB News]
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so if you post something on here and I think it's mean I can make a non crime complaint to the police.

and they will come and tell you off like a naughty child?


and you think thats how the law should work?


literally walking into a totalitarian state if we aren't already there.
 
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Ahh, arknor wading into the argument with his usual level of nuance! :D

Read the rest of the thread m8 (and maybe the article in question would help too! :p)
 
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