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Richdog said:
AMD definitely need to get some flack for pulling this crap and only dropping the embargos on launch day... it's really lacking in transparency and not consumer friendly.
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Or more likely it's trying to keep the hype to when you can actually buy the product. They've had flak before for paper launches where people have read the reviews, but can't buy anything because product is still being boxed up at the factory. The hype and interest turns into frustration and bad publicity.

The solution is to wait for the reviews and then buy what you want if the product lives up to your expectations and requirements. No one needs a brand new product the day of release.
 
Steampunk said:
Or more likely it's trying to keep the hype to when you can actually buy the product. They've had flak before for paper launches where people have read the reviews, but can't buy anything because product is still being boxed up at the factory. The hype and interest turns into frustration and bad publicity.

The solution is to wait for the reviews and then buy what you want if the product lives up to your expectations and requirements. No one needs a brand new product the day of release.
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No, you are just making excuses and your own rationalizations for them. Reviews should be done and seen before a product is launched, that is the way it has traditionally been done and it is the honest and transparent way to do things. This new move from AMD of not allowing reviews until launch day is a really bad trend.
 
Richdog said:
AMD definitely need to get some flack for pulling this crap and only dropping the embargos on launch day... it's really lacking in transparency and not consumer friendly.
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100% agree with you on this.

Ryzen 5000 launch was a bad too, but at least we knew they were going to be good. So you could buy it regardless.

Big Navi on the other hand....might not be....

Reviews should be out a day before, its a pisstake
 
Steampunk said:
Or more likely it's trying to keep the hype to when you can actually buy the product. They've had flak before for paper launches where people have read the reviews, but can't buy anything because product is still being boxed up at the factory. The hype and interest turns into frustration and bad publicity.

The solution is to wait for the reviews and then buy what you want if the product lives up to your expectations and requirements. No one needs a brand new product the day of release.
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Yup makes sense.. those who dont want to take the risk, can wait for the reviews to conclude ... after all launch/release etc. are all psychological barriers.
In fact AMD's model provides a good opportunity for risk taking (over)enthusiasts to snap a product and helps smoothen out demand during the launch window
 
Richdog said:
AMD definitely need to get some flack for pulling this crap and only dropping the embargos on launch day... it's really lacking in transparency and not consumer friendly.
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I can forgive them for ryzen since they have a track record of releasing processors that can compete with and even surpass intel in some cases, but due to AMD doesnt have as good of a reputation with graphics cards so it would be nice to see some third party performance benchmarks ahead of the release
 
Embargo ending on launch day has always been the case for most launches.

This happens everytime as people completely forget the last X year of launches

I have absolutely no problem with the 6800XT launching at the same minute as the reviews as that's the launches I grew up with
 
Richdog said:
AMD definitely need to get some flack for pulling this crap and only dropping the embargos on launch day... it's really lacking in transparency and not consumer friendly.
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It's reviewer friendly and it's AMD friendly.

All these reviewers have had the goods for weeks to do testing and have confidence that fellow reviewers will not be jumping the gun. Reviewers are definitely not hating on this.

AMD has less to police and it's harder to accuse them of sale twisting bias if they're not picking reviewers to do pre-launch reviews which cannot be verified until launch. It loses all value to cherry pick reviewers if they are only allowed to drop reviews when people are in a position to double check them.

The average consumer loses nothing. They get a huge quantity of reviews at once which can be easily cross checked for whacky results. Then in theory they are fully equipped to make a purchase or not of the product which is now available.

Consumers with unhealthy buying compulsions make themselves suffer with this model because they're caught between F5 spam buying the new shiny in ignorance or doing their homework and missing the first batch of the new shiny.
 
JediFragger said:
They didn't though, at best they matched them.
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Just shows that it depends on who you watch, cause the majority of reviews I've seen, from large Techtubers to small random joes, has the 5800x/5900x beating the 10900k in the majority of titles, with the 5600x even taking a few wins here and there and otherwise staying very close. I would call that win in gaming for Ryzen and the former Gaming king dethroned.
 
Like you say it depends who you trust on the reviews. We'll agree to disagree :)

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