The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

[willhub]

AMD doesn't need DLSS because you can lower the settings, use Radeon Boost and get the same frame rate increase while keeping the quality virtually indistinguishably different.

Tech Spot have articles about Crysis 2 and Crysis 3.

Crysis 2: comparison between Extreme, Very High and High settings:

Extreme:


Very High:


High:


Framerate:
Radeon HD 6870:
Extreme 2560x1600: 23 FPS;
Very High 2560x1600: 34 FPS;
High 2560x1600: 41 FPS;




Crysis 2 GPU & CPU Performance Test > Benchmarks: High Performance (techspot.com)

But you can do that on an Nvidia card, lowering graphics settings to give performance boost, then put DLSS on and it goes even higher.

 

[nvidiamd]

Will be interested in an update on this from @TNA as he has the card to test it now and we were never convinced of the "better than native" statements people were coming out with.

Saying better than native is like saying that the world looks better through eyeglasses. It does not, the eyes are the problem, not the world. Here the graphic card is the problem, it is unable to render native 4k as it should.

 

[Hotwired]

Ah yes you can see it coming.

2021 the year everyone gets busy blurring and sharpening 1080P inflated to 4k so the new demanding graphics settings can be used at a playable rate at "4k".

 

[gpuerrilla]

We can insert it into the Chinese Calendar as a new zodiac.. Bat

 

[TNA]

Arguing over who is faster in Timespy is comical. I used to be a bit of an overclocker and loved it. Did a couple of LN2 events also but for me, games is where the fastest should be compared and with a decent OC headroom, the 6800 XT looks to be the winner for me (excpet in RT games - but fine wine and all that)

Yep. All about how well a card does in games.

As much as I enjoy benchmarking, 3DMark and other benchmarks like it have zero bearing on my purchase choice.

Will be interested in an update on this from @TNA as he has the card to test it now and we were never convinced of the "better than native" statements people were coming out with.

I actually do not have a single game currently installed that uses DLSS. Tried Control for a short while (game did not do anything for me) which looked good with DLSS on and yes I would use it if I needed the FPS boost to hit 60fps. Basically it is a nice thing to have to boost fps, not sure about better than native. Activating DLSS also brings its own issues anyway.

For me DLSS is something for the future games, not interested in what has come out until this point.

I will be waiting for Cyberpunk before doing a deeper analysis and coming to a conclusion as that is a game I will actually put a lot of time into.


Your 3090 will be here soon, will be interested in your thoughts. Too funny how it has worked out. Both you and Humbug buying an Nvidia card. Lol

 

[Dontrocktheboat]

Ray tracing test for Cold War

tldr: 6800xt is slower than the minimum framerate in the rtx3070 and that's before you turn on dlss

3080 is 70% faster than 6800xt
3070 50% faster than 6800
With dlss on: 3080 is 125% faster than 6800xt

That does look bad for 6-series.

We will see if cyberpunk 2077 turns in the same performance ratios.

10th of DEC not long left.

 

[gpuerrilla]

DLSS 3.0

 

[nvidiamd]

You can`t make fine wine out of sour grapes. No matter how much you wait.

 

[diziet]

Ah yes you can see it coming.

2021 the year everyone gets busy blurring and sharpening 1080P inflated to 4k so the new demanding graphics settings can be used at a playable rate at "4k".

That's pretty much what I fear. Games rendered by an AI rather than the artists that make the games. I know DLSS2 at least can produce really good quality images, but if I had an NVidia card I'd rather tweak settings within reason for a playable frame rate than enable DLSS. Of course if a game was only playable with it turned on, i'd turn it on.

 

[gpuerrilla]

That's pretty much what I fear. Games rendered by an AI rather than the artists that make the games. I know DLSS2 at least can produce really good quality images, but if I had an NVidia card I'd rather tweak settings within reason for a playable frame rate than enable DLSS. Of course if a game was only playable with it turned on, i'd turn it on.

Yeah I thought it would be to assist the weaker lineups in the stack i.e. 2060/70 and now the 3060/70 however it seems to be a tactic to get the flagship cards with playable fps.

 

[nvidiamd]

But what is the reason to turn it on? To brag that you can play at 4k?
If it`s almost as good as native then why not keeping it on all the time, no matter how much fps you have? Hell if i was Nvidia i will make it default setting. It will cut the cost a lot, just fill the chipset with those great tensor cores and thats it. 800x600>>>4k.

 

[fs123]

I see the trolls are out in force today. Let's see what happens next week shall we. Rumor is that FXSS will be launched same time as 6900XT,

 

[gpuerrilla]

But what is the reason to turn it on? To brag that you can play at 4k?
If it`s almost as good as native then why not keeping it on all the time, no matter how much fps you have?

I think this is the narrative where guys like Grim get sucked in too much. Its only meant to help out but ends up being the be-all-end-all with internet arguments.

Not enough games command it otherwise it would be a bigger thing. Raw rasterisation power for me, if the games throw in the features - its a bonus - but I wouldn't be buying games targeting RTX/DLSS for the sake of it.

 

[Nablaoperator]

But what is the reason to turn it on? To brag that you can play at 4k?
If it`s almost as good as native then why not keeping it on all the time, no matter how much fps you have? Hell if i was Nvidia i will make it default setting. It will cut the cost a lot, just fill the chipset with those great tensor cores and thats it. 800x600>>>4k.

Lol.. dlss/super resolution is a breakthrough innovation.. it's the future.. credit where it's due

 

[4K8KW10]

Lol.. dlss/super resolution is a breakthrough innovation.. it's the future.. credit where it's due

Upscaling has been used since the dawn of times, nothing good in it, to be honest. Makes the poor hardware look not so poor - the solution is to make the hardware faster, not to lower the load by effectively cheating the native rendering techniques.

 

[Besty]

People with 1440P 144Hz monitors find them to be the sweet spot for high framerate gaming. Not likely that all the 1440P 144Hz+ gamers will jump to 4K just because we have finally acheived 4K 60fps.

The cards have to hit 90fps in 4k for me to jump up a monitor tier, even the 3090 can't push that in Division 2.

I will stick to 1440p/144hz for now and have a great experience, i can always plug the card into my telly and use my Xbox Controller if i really want 4k/HDR. That's how i played death stranding.

The 6800XT is 50% quicker in the Division 2 than my 5700XT, its quite a huge performance leap and we have not seen the 6900XT yet.

 

[AthlonXP1800]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jyt8az/my_amd_rx6800xt_died_after_a_few_hours_of_playtime/

Wow that is first 6800 XT card death reported after played games for few hours then black screen.

Navi 21 6800 series could see higher failure rate than Navi 10 5700 series.

Seemed AMD never resolved black screen issues on Navi 10 and now it happened again on Navi 21.

 

[TNA]

I see the trolls are out in force today. Let's see what happens next week shall we. Rumor is that FXSS will be launched same time as 6900XT,

What’s fxss?

 

[Phate]

FidelityFX Super Sampling

AMDS answer to DLSS

 

[Hotwired]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jyt8az/my_amd_rx6800xt_died_after_a_few_hours_of_playtime/

Wow that is first 6800 XT card death reported after played games for few hours.

Navi 21 6800 series could see higher failure rate than Navi 10 5700 series.

Yeah I'm not seeing how you make that leap on a sample of 1.