The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

[Hotwired]

Like I said, it's a time slice but if people want to make claims using the worst kind of data available from it, there are better supported views which contradict it.

Don't the newest Nvidia cards have the lowest RMA (20 Supers) they're the only cards that have been out same length of time as AMD's 5XXX?

That's the point. They are a refresh and have gained reliability over the first take (2000 non super) which has worse RMA rates than AMDs first (and only so far) take on the 5000 top end.

By "new" I am referring to the initial models produced of a series. The ones that you'd expect to be taking the most risks to get performance.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

Does anyone have those leaked prices for the AIB AMD cards?
I can't find them.

 

[Martini1991]

Like I said, it's a time slice but if people want to make claims using the worst kind of data available from it, there are better supported views which contradict it.



That's the point. They are a refresh and have gained reliability over the first take which has worse RMA rates than AMDs first (and only so far) take on the 5000 top end.

Well no, it's not that simple.
Nvidia 2080 has been out longer so it's had longer to fail
A 5700XT at the same age as a 2080 in time may have the same or higher percentage failure.

There's also the fact that since the Nvidia GPU:s have been superseded what they're selling has changed and the quantities.

It may be that they sold 50K in X period but 100K in Y period. If the failure's of the last 12 month come from the total pool of GPU's but the failure rate is compared to the 50K figure it's going to look worse.

 

[Hotwired]

Such are the flaws of starting with partial data.

 

[Phixsator]

The easiest way to get better numbers is a larger cooler.

Assume posted before but thoughts?

It doesn't have to be ugly but they threw that in for free.

I don't mind a lady with some heft to her but this ain't it. "Det er en om'er!"

/Disclaimer: If you are a ********* and feel offended there is nothing I can do for you, sorry.

EDIT: Wow censoring that word is just strange and over the top PC.

 

[Nablaoperator]

Well no, it's not that simple.
Nvidia 2080 has been out longer so it's had longer to fail
A 5700XT at the same age as a 2080 in time may have the same or higher percentage failure.

There's also the fact that since the Nvidia GPU:s have been superseded what they're selling has changed and the quantities.

It may be that they sold 50K in X period but 100K in Y period. If the failure's of the last 12 month come from the total pool of GPU's but the failure rate is compared to the 50K figure it's going to look worse.

Yeah I had done something similar with short span data. You'd need a panel for each card sold - date sold, current state, date of complaint and then fit weibull distribution on it in a Bayesian sense. The industry generally uses mean time to failure as a reportable metric and not RMA rates. This looks like the kind of stats I have come to expect of techtubers

 

[Martini1991]

Such are the flaws of starting with partial data.

But you're the one who took the data to make what I'd consider a flawed point about failure rates for the 20XX none supers

 

[Deleted member 66701]

Lots of it actually from Mind factory (which is a massive source)

AMD RMA at 3.1% vs 2.2% for Nvidia:

https://techreport.com/news/3472666/amd-gpus-rma-more-than-nvidia-report/
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-nvidia-gpu-rma-rate-listed#:~:text=From these figures, Nvidia has,50 percent higher RMA rate.
https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/...s-fascinating-pattern-between-amd-nvidia-gpus

Data is old and doesn't include many 2nnn series cards and we all know the problems those cards had. 5.3% RMA rate for the 2080ti - disappointing for a 1k card. Its also not very good data, as there is no reason listed for returns.

 

[Hotwired]

But you're the one who took the data to make what I'd consider a flawed point about failure rates for the 20XX none supers

It's absolutely flawed, there is incomplete data.

We're looking at a time slice of products at different times in their life, some are refreshed which has implications to its reliability, some are high performance parts, some are not.

Yet it's so easy to make extrapolated claims.

 

[subbytna]

transgender
feminist

Edit : nope not the word I thought was being censored


@Phixsator what word was it lol

 

[Besty]

This video tests different CPU and the AMD 6800xt.

Just interesting but the performance of the 9900k is lower than reviews for the 6800xt with a 9900k.

I wouldn’t trust the differences too much the 9900k is very heat and setup sensitive, it is the best and worst CPU i have ever owned.

The only way we will find out is when people in this forum (and others like it) test it for ourselves and use manually hand tweaked settings.

 

[Grim5]

Local store says they have no stock of AIB big Navi cards, worse launch than Mvidia once again ETA is mid December for stock

 

[K1LaW8tt5]

Local store says they have no stock of AIB big Navi cards, worse launch than Mvidia once again ETA is mid December for stock

based on what? queues are still in the 1000s for ampere 2 months later. But your local coop said they have no big navi then I suppose we can't argue with that.

 

[Phixsator]

transgender
feminist

Edit : nope not the word I thought was being censored


@Phixsator what word was it lol

hahaha, it's something that falls from the heavens during winter but also describes an over-sensitive and self-entitled person.

 

[Gregster]

transgender
feminist

Edit : nope not the word I thought was being censored


@Phixsator what word was it lol

It is a word that starts with "snow" and ends in "flake"

I used it once and got a warning from a moderator. Sadly, that is the way of the world now and even at work, I am surrounded by them

 

[gpuerrilla]

I used it once and got a warning from a moderator.

Tough when your normally the one picking up... jib boom!

 

[gpuerrilla]

Local store says they have no stock of AIB big Navi cards, worse launch than Mvidia once again ETA is mid December for stock

 

[Gregster]

Tough when your normally the one picking up... jib boom!

Terrible lol

Anyways, moving on....... Failure rates.... Who cares? I understand that it is frustrating to be without a card for a bit but as long as it gets replaced, it is all good. I am a fan of Zotac and the 5 year warranty. Any from AMD have that?

 

[Deleted member 66701]

Local store says they have no stock of AIB big Navi cards, worse launch than Mvidia once again ETA is mid December for stock

Oh look, a post from Grim disparaging an AMD card.

Quelle surprise.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

I don't mind a lady with some heft to her but this ain't it. "Det er en om'er!"

/Disclaimer: If you are a ********* and feel offended there is nothing I can do for you, sorry.

EDIT: Wow censoring that word is just strange and over the top PC.

Well, it is widely considered as an insult and slur, so it's hardly surprising it's censored.