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The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2
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The angle about that was there would be not enough so you'd have to buy instantly but just enough that getting reviews early would make all the difference.
What actually happened was there was even less product than that, the sites were crippled before launch time and there were rare random purchases getting through all day while the vast majority generated massive traffic unable to get anything.
No amount of reviews can help your ultra low odds to get a card at a highly anticipated and understocked launch like this.
What actually happened was there was even less product than that, the sites were crippled before launch time and there were rare random purchases getting through all day while the vast majority generated massive traffic unable to get anything.
No amount of reviews can help your ultra low odds to get a card at a highly anticipated and understocked launch like this.
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Exactly this
Haha, so my assumption that it was just 10 cards was close enough!
But yes, people probably do not realise but AMD website has ONE stock for all of the Europe. It just displays pricing depending of location it detects (as in, direct conversion from $ plus local VAT). Hence if something shows up ALL of Europe jumps on it, many thousands of people using various bots to monitor for stock. Getting one requires super good luck with 12 cards for many thousands of vultures waiting.
Are you guys implying the video is fake? Those are some serious accusations.
Nope, that’s not it
Denying the truth. The fear is real.
Are you guys implying the video is fake? Those are some serious accusations.
Nope, that’s not it
Denying the truth. The fear is real.
It's not fake but it's obvious they was an Nvidia bias there. They failed to mention anything about AMD's upcoming answer to DLSS and just mislead the viewer by not even indicating that FidelityFXSR is in the works. Also they made a big thing out of 4K when we know most real gamers are playing at 1080P or 1440P high refresh rates. Common sense says that if you have a 144Hz monitor then look at the numbers at 1440P, not at 4K since you would be wasting your displays capability playing at only 60fps.
They also tested on an Intel i9 PCI-E Gen 3, then said the 6800 XT was not worthwhile due to bottlenecks at 1440p.
Anyone that tests high end GPUs on anything but the strongest CPU line-up (Ryzen 5000 series) and latest PCI-Gen (4.0) can get in the bin.
Why, i hear the people not interested in AMD GPUs cry that frequent this thread? Well, here's a CPU limited scenario - The fastest 3080 score in Firestrike Standard Vs the only 6080 XT graphics score. The difference in these scenario's? PCI-E 3.0 Vs 4.0. Granted, Ampere might be poor at 1080P-1440P, but running both on PCI-E Gen 4 would narrow the difference somewhat for sure.
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Are you guys implying the video is fake? Those are some serious accusations.
Nope, that’s not it
Denying the truth. The fear is real.
The Digital Foundry 6800/XT review had a very negative overall feel. Pretty much dismissing the 16GB VRAM advantage for instance. They also noted that going forward RT is going to be very important to games due to the consoles doing RT and because of that Nvidia would have a big advantage due to their better handling of RT. They seemed to not make the connection that RT will be optimized for console hardware (RDNA2) and not the way Nvidia does it. Nvidia may still have a RT advantage in this situation but RT should be very playable on the 6800 series cards due to this.
I don't know if they really are biased towards Nvidia but they sure were keen to take Nvidia's money to hype up the 3080 in their preview and that has left a sour taste in my mouth. I think I will stick to DFRetro going forward.
2x the RTX 2080.
Ok. Guess we already know how good / bad AMD’s ‘DLSS’ is both in image quality and performance. Also when it’s coming out!
Exactly. RT on either AMD/Nvidia cards is pointless without some form of trickery. However Nvidia at this point has a working solution now with DLSS 2.0 but unfortunately AMD has nothing, and no word on when or how good it might be.
So if you are someone like me who is coming from an older GPU with no RT functionality and now fancies trying out some of the RT enabled games such as Control, Metro, and the upcoming Cyberpunk then it's a big negative (for me personally) that AMD does't have an answer to DLSS to allow RT to be playable at higher resolutions that I use (4k and 1440p)
The 6800xt is overpriced
As for AMD's DLSS competitor, they imply that it's unlikely to be a real competitor anyway since AMD's version runs on the shaders and not AI cores so its more likely to be comparable to checkerboard rendering - even though the RDNA 2 card can support AI DLSS type feature, Microsoft is 1 to 2 years behind Nvidia on their AI development (and that's after Nvidia was nice enough to provide details about their AI model to Microsoft to help them out, they are still 1 to 2 years behind after a helping hand) and AMD can do absolutely nothing but wait while Nvidia has free reign.
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When you starting a thread on DLSS 3.0 @Grim5 ?
Again, I’m just messing around. Dont really care much about Pc gaming anymore and I’m good for a while with my 2080, however im mostly ****** at ‘what could have been but isn’t’ with my ps5.
Better RT and DLSS on ps5 would have been amazing. It’s great as it is even now, but could have been so much more. And no chance of this changing until the inevitable ps5pro. Meh
Better RT and DLSS on ps5 would have been amazing. It’s great as it is even now, but could have been so much more. And no chance of this changing until the inevitable ps5pro. Meh
I thought they were rather positive regarding the 6800 vs the 3070.
This is the crazy thing, every other review has the 6800XT faster than the 3080, with any high end CPU, at 1440P, and say its a great card at that, compared with the 3080 it is, and there is nothing else you can compare it to.
Along comes Digital Foundry and says exactly the opposite, like UserBench who have now given up trying to fudge the way they weigh CPU's because Ryzen 5000 is faster than Intel in every aspect are just blatantly shuffling all the Intel CPU's with lower scores above Ryzen 5000 in the performance charts and hope no one questions it..
Digital Foundry like Nvidia's money more than their integrity, that's fine, but i'm going to treat them accordingly, they are Nvidia shills. They are to Nvidia what UserBench are to Intel, a marketing arm parading as an independent reviewer.
Well they could't spin it any other way could they? The 6800 is half way in between a 3070 and 3080.
When you starting a thread on DLSS 3.0 @Grim5 ?
When Moore's Law is Dead puts up another video announcing it, cause you know, he has inside sources that promised him DLSS 3.0
I had a 6800 in my basket on release day on he AMD site.
They were showing as in stock for a while.
When I eventually decided to checkout (I wanted an XT) it wouldn't let me complete the transaction, but it stayed in my basket for a few days weirdly.
So I'm assuming it's only yours once you pay.
I keep looking at the next gen performance and it's not so good. I remember one of Hardware Unboxed videos where they were saying AMD GPUs were fantastic, that RT wasn't ready yet so buy with confidence. Yet when asked in another video what they both had in their personal systems, they both answered Ampere.
Both AMD and Nvidia are offering high FPS, but only Ampere offers usable RT.
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