The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

Tiny_D · 19 Nov 2020 at 07:28

Chuk_Chuk said:
It never fails to surprise me how we can have 100+ pages of discussion and one side is comepletly clueless on the other sides position.

This made me laugh Chuck, unfortunately not limited to this thread

I would insert a dog chasing its's tail gif but that got me in trouble last time.... Apparently it's ok to be pointless just not point it out

Richdog · 19 Nov 2020 at 07:35

HEADRAT said:
It’s not spin it’s reality, I don’t know where you’re getting £1400 from I can find anybody offering a 3090 for that price.

I was just pointing out that for a card with so much apparent desire/demand there seems to be plenty of stock, especially when that card was only released several weeks ago!

Several weeks? It was almost exactly 2 months ago (24th September) when Ampere was released and stock is only just now starting to trickle in more steadily for both 3080 and 3090 cards.

deuse · 19 Nov 2020 at 07:38

HEADRAT said:
It’s not spin it’s reality, I don’t know where you’re getting £1400 from I can find anybody offering a 3090 for that price.

You're either blind or just no looking.
Plenty got a 3090 for £1,400 yesterday.

HEADRAT · 19 Nov 2020 at 07:41

Richdog said:
Several weeks? It was almost exactly 2 months ago (24th September) when Ampere was released and stock is only just now starting to trickle in more steadily for both 3080 and 3090 cards.

Ok, 8 weeks, not several weeks

Several weeks = 7+ weeks != 8 weeks, my so bad!

So a trickle of supply is satisfying the demand for the 3090 which is only 8 WEEKS since release and where there has been no stock, huge pent up demand obviously

LOL!

HEADRAT · 19 Nov 2020 at 07:46

deuse said:
You're either blind or just no looking.
Plenty got a 3090 for £1,400 yesterday.

Looking at many major retailers, many have stock of 3090 GTX, none at £1400 so yes I must be blind

Examples:

Retailor 1 : Zotac GeForce RTX 3090 24GB GDDR6X TRINITY Ampere £1629 (cheapest one in stock)
Retailor 2 : Zotac GeForce RTX 3090 24GB GDDR6X TRINITY Ampere £1699 (cheapest one in stock)
Retailer 3 : KFA2 GEFORCE RTX 3090 SG 24GB GDDR6X PCI-EXPRESS GRAPHICS CARD £1659 (cheapest one in stock)
Retailer 4 : Palit NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 GamingPro 24GB GDDR6X Ray-Tracing Graphics Card, 10496 Core, 1395MHz GPU, 1695MHz Boost £1529 (cheapest one in stock)

Damn my myopicness

Martini1991 · 19 Nov 2020 at 07:49

Twinz said:
We have two companies actually competing at the high end now. Even the "overpriced" OC AIB cards will absolutely destroy last gen's stuff and do it for A LOT less money.

Where can I buy one of these cards that's destroying my last generation card for less money?

I'm on a 5700XT I paid £375 for.

Joxeon · 19 Nov 2020 at 07:49

HEADRAT said:
The fact there is seems to be stock of the 3090 from multiple sources indicates to me that demand isn’t that high for a card that was launched just a few weeks ago

Not too much desire there! Obviously NVIDIA is reinventing the concept of supply/demand, where having unsold stock show just how good their product is, impressive

There are no bad products only bad prices.

LtMatt · 19 Nov 2020 at 07:50

TNA said:
I got my 3080 running at around 250-260w by undervolting it. It has much more stable clocks like this and matches stock performance in benchmarks I have run. But I am sure one will be able to do something similar with the 6800XT if they did well with silicon lottery

Sounds good.

From what i have seen so far, 6800 / 6800 XTs look to be decent overclocks, with users able to max out memory overclock, have the GPU core clck boosting to 2500Mhz in game, and with an undervolt. It sounds promising for sure, but will have to test it myself once it arrives.

At its stock settings, we saw the GPU clock typically hovering around the 2,350 - 2,400MHz mark while gaming (give or take, obviously) with the Radeon RX 6800 XT we used for testing. With a little tweaking we found that we could easily max-out the memory clock on our card to 2,150MHz (17.2Gbps), and with a mild under-volt to 1,130mV, a 2,490MHz max boost clock was stable.

HEADRAT said:
The reason you can now buy a 3090 is that nobody in going pay £1700 for a card that the 6900XT is going to destroy in terms of price/performance in the next few weeks.

The 6800 / 6800 XT already does that to be fair.

£600 for a 6800 XT makes a mockery of the 3090.

deuse said:
You're either blind or just no looking.
Plenty got a 3090 for £1,400 yesterday.

£600 or £1400.

£600 or £1700.

Tomato-tomato.

Slixy · 19 Nov 2020 at 08:09

HEADRAT said:
Looking at many major retailers, many have stock of 3090 GTX, none at £1400 so yes I must be blind

Examples:

Retailor 1 : Zotac GeForce RTX 3090 24GB GDDR6X TRINITY Ampere £1629 (cheapest one in stock)
Retailor 2 : Zotac GeForce RTX 3090 24GB GDDR6X TRINITY Ampere £1699 (cheapest one in stock)
Retailer 3 : KFA2 GEFORCE RTX 3090 SG 24GB GDDR6X PCI-EXPRESS GRAPHICS CARD £1659 (cheapest one in stock)
Retailer 4 : Palit NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 GamingPro 24GB GDDR6X Ray-Tracing Graphics Card, 10496 Core, 1395MHz GPU, 1695MHz Boost £1529 (cheapest one in stock)

Damn my myopicness

I think he means direct from team green.

I saw them up for ages for 1400. Even had enough time to have a cup of tea (or 3) to think about it and they were still there after.

gpuerrilla · 19 Nov 2020 at 08:14

TNA said:
Nobody? I can think of at least one individual

There are actually a lot more people buying a 3090 than I expected. Kudos to Jensen’s marketing team. They managed to create so much desire in this space that people you would never think would buy such a card are paying more than double the price of a 3080 for 15% extra performance

bishi · 19 Nov 2020 at 08:18

HEADRAT said:
Ok, 8 weeks, not several weeks

Several weeks = 7+ weeks != 8 weeks, my so bad!

So a trickle of supply is satisfying the demand for the 3090 which is only 8 WEEKS since release and where there has been no stock, huge pent up demand obviously LOL!

Several means at least a few (i.e 3)... not really relevant to the discussion, just want to point that out since we're correcting...

LtMatt · 19 Nov 2020 at 08:19

Slixy said:
I think he means direct from team green.

I saw them up for ages for 1400. Even had enough time to have a cup of tea (or 3) to think about it and they were still there after.

I clicked that link and it re-directed to Scan?

Slixy · 19 Nov 2020 at 08:22

LtMatt said:
I clicked that link and it re-directed to Scan?

Yes, they are just using them as a merchant. But they will still in theory be sold by nvidia. Surprised they were up so long. I guess people were waiting for the 6800XT or not wanting to pay nearly double 3080 prices for 15 percent increase in performance.

Doug2507 · 19 Nov 2020 at 08:23

Scan are the official FE retailer, an FE is 1399 delivered.

TNA · 19 Nov 2020 at 08:29

HEADRAT said:
Ok, 8 weeks, not several weeks

Several weeks = 7+ weeks != 8 weeks, my so bad!

So a trickle of supply is satisfying the demand for the 3090 which is only 8 WEEKS since release and where there has been no stock, huge pent up demand obviously LOL!

Grasping at straws you are

Way to strawman. We went from you taking issue with me saying "Kudos to Jensen’s marketing team. They managed to create so much desire in this space that people you would never think would buy such a card are paying more than double the price of a 3080 for 15% extra performance" to changing the goal posts to there is stock now available of the 3090 after nearly two months so there must not be much desire for it. Erm... LOL!

LtMatt said:
Sounds good.

From what i have seen so far, 6800 / 6800 XTs look to be decent overclocks, with users able to max out memory overclock, have the GPU core clck boosting to 2500Mhz in game, and with an undervolt. It sounds promising for sure, but will have to test it myself once it arrives.

Yeah, looking forward to your results.

I noticed how well the 6800XT does in Firestrike Ultra. Going to be good seeing the benchmark threads painted in red here. They have been green for too long!

Th0nt said:

Nablaoperator · 19 Nov 2020 at 08:43

Not that it matters.. maybe a small consolation that 6800 XT does 59MH/s out of the box in ethhash

deuse · 19 Nov 2020 at 08:44

HEADRAT said:
Looking at many major retailers, many have stock of 3090 GTX, none at £1400 so yes I must be blind

Yes you're blind...by a long way.

Maybe check the 3090 thread from yesterday?

Or you are being a troll?

HEADRAT · 19 Nov 2020 at 08:48

deuse said:
Yes you're blind...by a long way.

Maybe check the 3090 thread from yesterday?

Or you are being a troll?

I’m not the one in an AMD thread, I think the lady does protest too hard

Check today for 3090 at £1399, no stock, so if I’m so blind where can I but today at £1399?

Plenty of stock for £1500+ but it’s not exactly flying off the shelves even with a trickle of stock is it?

Richdog · 19 Nov 2020 at 08:55

Why are people arguing about this stupid and petty topic? Who really cares if there is stock of the 3090 or not, it's still overall a ridiculous and terrible value card.

Kirby Wurm · 19 Nov 2020 at 08:57

Well pricing and stock issues aside I'm impressed with what AMD have achieved. Such a shame that the return of competition to the high end has been spoiled by horrendous shortages.