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I think you should have a go yourself.
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I have not measured them, but being cup packed, I imagine it is 60mm (I think that's right for the Cups?)
[TW]Fox;19003404 said:
You wouldn't refurb the rears, these are essentially just cup dampers with different springs. When I said £300, I said it was for a good set - why would I need to refurb a good set?
Blisteins praises are sung pretty much everywhere you go, it's certainly an option, but it would almost certainly require buying new springs (or even two sets!) with rates that suit my application(s) to get the most out of them. At least the Trophy dampers and springs would have had the R&D....
I'd normally be up for something like this, but I think the money is worth it to have them dyno matched, plus I have no means to gas them.
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When I said £300, I said it was for a good set - why would I need to refurb a good set?
They need doing every 30-40k miles, what are the chances of a set of used dampers being fresh?
When I said £300, I said it was for a good set - why would I need to refurb a good set?
Contradicting posts are (predictably) contradicting!
[TW]Fox;19003584 said:
You can't possibly call it on mileage. They need doing when they are no longer doing their job effectively, and this will depend on how old they are and what kind of life they've had - exposure to the elements, type of roads, track days, how hard the car is driven etc.
Contradicting posts are (predictably) contradicting!
How? We were discussing the possibility of it needing to be done, I've not said I'm going to rush out and have them done? I might be lucky and find some leaking ones stupidly cheap though
I can't tell if you're deliberately misquoting or you just can't read but quite frankly I'm astonished you have the audacity to still try and criticise in this thread after being pulled up on your lies, I'm guessing you've just ignored them in the hope they'll go away - each mention seems to keep you away for a little longer though, let's hope it works this time too
Where have I said I'm going to pick up some freshly refurbished Trophy dampers for £300?
Where have I said I'm going to pick up some freshly refurbished Trophy dampers for £300?
I can't tell if you're deliberately misquoting or you just can't read but quite frankly I'm astonished you have the audacity to still try and criticise in this thread after being pulled up on your lies, I'm guessing you've just ignored them in the hope they'll go away - each mention seems to keep you away for a little longer though, let's hope it works this time too
Where have I said I'm going to pick up some freshly refurbished Trophy dampers for £300?
Lies?
[MikeHiow Mode] "Prove it!" [/MikeHiow Mode]
And what would you mean by "a good set" if it wasn't a set recently refurbished?
Ok...
Looks like Mike wasn't to optimistic, theres another 54 plate 182 on ClioSport for sale for £3500...
Oh no, never mind, it has 44,000 miles on it and the cambelt was fitted by a Renault garage.
Advert on Cliosport said:
No mention of belts being done by a Renault garage, what tyres it has, previous owners or service history, the whole advert screams "run away" before you even get to the part where it has a smashed front end.
A set of dampers that still damp as they should, still hold all their oil and gas and are still in one piece.
Still beats "Almost a full Renault Service History, but I decided to have a go at changing the belts myself last time".
And I never lied Mike, I just didn't detail the full picture. Something I thought you would be very familiar with.
But hey ho, if it makes you happy and you want to carry around the 'you big fat liar' argument, go ahead. Doesn't bother me, I'm just 'some guy on the internet'.
And I never lied Mike, I just didn't detail the full picture. Something I thought you would be very familiar with.
But hey ho, if it makes you happy and you want to carry around the 'you big fat liar' argument, go ahead. Doesn't bother me, I'm just 'some guy on the internet'.
I'd rather carry around "FRSH bar de-phaser etc." (which is obvious that it works perfectly) than missing out a vital piece of information such as a car for sale that's been front-ended to support your argument.
It's like me saying Gibbo paid far too much for his C2 because I found one for £20k (it's been written off as salvage only, but that's not important!).
It's like me saying Gibbo paid far too much for his C2 because I found one for £20k (it's been written off as salvage only, but that's not important!).
Anyone else think arguments with MikeHiow are like poking an alligator with a stick while holding a shotgun in the other hand?
Yeah, its fun to jab at it for a while to make it snap, but eventually you will get bored and can just blow its head off and go and find something more interesting to do...
And before you start Mike, no I'm not 'running away from loosing an argument'. Its 00:24, I've had my fun for this evening, I'm going to bed. I'll be back for the next MikeHiow hair brained scheme or monumental U Turn.
I enjoy our little chats
Yeah, its fun to jab at it for a while to make it snap, but eventually you will get bored and can just blow its head off and go and find something more interesting to do...
And before you start Mike, no I'm not 'running away from loosing an argument'. Its 00:24, I've had my fun for this evening, I'm going to bed. I'll be back for the next MikeHiow hair brained scheme or monumental U Turn.
I enjoy our little chats
Well, you could have avoided making baseless arguments in the first place, or you could have avoided further basing your arguments on a lie (such as giving a front-ended car as a price example, or telling us that a Clio is a nicer place to be and just as comfortable as a Mondeo), or you could have even stopped misquoting to continue the argument.
All this crap because the car is advertised at maybe £500 more than I can realistically expect, but of course, it's me, right? All because 90% of Motors is based on Wikipedia and people's opinions - so many people here seems to think they are either a motoring journalist, car salesman or a financial advisor.
It's a shame, whilst some of the arguments are fun, others just make it tedious and I spend half the thread checking information and clarifying misinformation/misquotes because people are looking for a hole to dig.
If this wasn't glaringly obvious before, it was after I posted a possible solution to keep the car, as people say I'm wrong to sell it, and then people tell me I'm wrong for finding a solution to keep it.
Whatever it is, it is dissected, mocked and questioned - "You can't stick a feeler gauge between a cam lobe and lifter, it's a BMW and they charge lots of money for it!" (M3 valve clearances), "You can't DIY a clio cambelt" and it's still mocked after it's been done! "You can't do 100mph and stop in 1/3 of a mile", yet it was still mocked in this very thread after video evidence was provided. "You can't possibly prefer a FWD Focus ST over an Impreza" etc. etc.
Motors has some very useful assets, it's just a shame it's so bloody difficult to take advantage of them.
All this crap because the car is advertised at maybe £500 more than I can realistically expect, but of course, it's me, right? All because 90% of Motors is based on Wikipedia and people's opinions - so many people here seems to think they are either a motoring journalist, car salesman or a financial advisor.
It's a shame, whilst some of the arguments are fun, others just make it tedious and I spend half the thread checking information and clarifying misinformation/misquotes because people are looking for a hole to dig.
If this wasn't glaringly obvious before, it was after I posted a possible solution to keep the car, as people say I'm wrong to sell it, and then people tell me I'm wrong for finding a solution to keep it.
Whatever it is, it is dissected, mocked and questioned - "You can't stick a feeler gauge between a cam lobe and lifter, it's a BMW and they charge lots of money for it!" (M3 valve clearances), "You can't DIY a clio cambelt" and it's still mocked after it's been done! "You can't do 100mph and stop in 1/3 of a mile", yet it was still mocked in this very thread after video evidence was provided. "You can't possibly prefer a FWD Focus ST over an Impreza" etc. etc.
Motors has some very useful assets, it's just a shame it's so bloody difficult to take advantage of them.
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To be fair that would be the case if you were a retailer - as its £500 over the retail value. You are not, so its about £1k over.
I beleive the original disputed claim was about accelerating to well in excess of 100mph and then slowing for a roundabout, not only doing 100mph?
Again, this doesnt seem to mirror what happened there either? I dont think the argument there was you saying you prefered your ST, it was you claiming the ST was faster or something. I'd prefer an ST to an Impreza as well so there must have been more to it than simply that..
You forget that one of your tendancies on here which leads to huge threads is to make outrageously silly claims and then over the course of the next 6 pages, backtrack sufficiently that the point you end up making is infact half reasonable. Then you look back on your eventual reasonable point and think 'Why do they argue with me'.
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I've been speaking to someone this evening who claims that Trophy dampers are the solution to my problems.
Much like my (completely hypothetical) mention of coilovers with two sets of springs, he claims that the Sachs dampers should help/eliminate things like bump steer and help improve high speed stability with their improved damping ability. There were also talks of more caster, which means adjustable top mounts.
Thoughts? Anyone driven a Trophy?
Looking at prices, it's a lot of searching and probably around £400, so it would be an expensive experiment if it didn't work
Head over to cliosport.net for feedback!
[TW]Fox;19004413 said:
I still find it hard to believe that retail value is only £3000 on the dot, I'll be sure to check that later. But irrespective of that, based on the current private market, £3k is perfectly realistic given the condition etc. Let's be fair, my car is far from the typical condition of a 137k mile car, something Glass's guide will never account for, especially not on a French hot hatch!
[TW]Fox;19004413 said:
Well the Video showed ~120-navigating round about on the way up and 100-0 in around half - two thirds of it, on the way down - in excess of 100mph is possible
[TW]Fox;19004413 said:
IIRC, The argument started off people couldn't comprehend me not liking the Impreza then it moved on to discussions of in gear times when I said the ST felt faster - the conclusion after many pages was that a mapped ST was close to the in-gear times of a PPP.
[TW]Fox;19004413 said:
This is your interpretation, which may have been the case early on, but as time went on, I was more and more careful with being thorough, dotting the Is and crossing the Ts.
This thread? Has been based on petty crap from the start, whether it was a tyre, or the fact a few people think it's overpriced (a few thought it was reasonable, too - they were ignored).
The trouble is, I'm likely to hit the same response over there as I've had from Clio owners on here - no one likes to be told their car isn't very good, even if it's just for one person's applications.
I also suspect it'll be littered with 'Well duh, why fit harder suspension then' from people that don't quite understand the issue/suspension. I guess it was more a case of I couldn't be bothered, perhaps I'll give it a go and see anyway.
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But the place to get specific information will be from an owners club or single marque forum, as there is more likely someone else who has had the same ideas as you.
No surprise that you would rather ignore that and go out on your own though.
No surprise that you would rather ignore that and go out on your own though.