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Oh, you want to judge me on innocently relaying an on-road experience on here? What? Because other people with no experience of said event think its unlikely?
Or do you want to judge me for selling a car with one key?
Or you want to judge me for preferring a car that has had a hard life but maintained properly over one that's had an easy life with sub-par maintenance?
Witch hunts, keyboard banter and bandwaggoning aside, what do any of them really tell you? I'm a terrible person? Not really, I work, pay taxes, I help people out when they need it and I even returned a nice mobile phone I found today to its owner. (yep, medal please).
I may be guilty of not making all of my posts clear enough, or even being a little provocative at times, but rarely am I dishonest, nasty or anything but helpful to deserve the keyboard warrior treatment.
Or do you want to judge me for selling a car with one key?
Or you want to judge me for preferring a car that has had a hard life but maintained properly over one that's had an easy life with sub-par maintenance?
Witch hunts, keyboard banter and bandwaggoning aside, what do any of them really tell you? I'm a terrible person? Not really, I work, pay taxes, I help people out when they need it and I even returned a nice mobile phone I found today to its owner. (yep, medal please).
I may be guilty of not making all of my posts clear enough, or even being a little provocative at times, but rarely am I dishonest, nasty or anything but helpful to deserve the keyboard warrior treatment.
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I'm not going to gave to make a post about Market value again to you am I. I'm suprised you didn't get 'scene tax' into your post. I guess that's next?!
You were irrational regarding the Honda civic ima mpg thread and you have Vtec in your sig. Are you a cleat Honda hater?
It seems you need to get a cheap, £500 snotter for a few years and then buy something that's actually going to make you happy. There's no shame in an old Mondeo, Vectra or Megane for a bit if it helps your family along.
The last thing I'd do is to buy a nail of a Honda Civic, 3 series or other old performance car descended from former glory. It'll only cost you more than it's worth and be a constant source of headache.
The last thing I'd do is to buy a nail of a Honda Civic, 3 series or other old performance car descended from former glory. It'll only cost you more than it's worth and be a constant source of headache.
Irrational? I'm just not convinced by them, especially if people are claiming they are Mondeo class cars.
I cetrtainly wouldn't get spending any more than a few k on a 13 year old civic. I totally understand market values, but there are some things you'd have to be totally barmy to buy.
Yep, I really hate hondas though, you'd never catch me buying any of that jap crap
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This is the problem isn't it Mike? I'm not sure you do it deliberately but what you post and what you think you've posted are always too completely different things. I dont want to go back over the VXR thread AGAIN but what I will say is that what you've said above there is basically complete rubbish.
That isnt what you said at all because that wouldnt have sparked the thread it did. We were talking nearly new cars which dont have the opportunity to suffer sub-par maintenance. You made no mention of maintenance. You specifically referred to the cars in question.
Yet now you've convinced yourself in your mind everyone was nasty to you for no reason because you are convinced what you said was different to what you actually said.
Look around Mike. EVERYONE finds what you post incredible at times. Even I don't garner that kind of reaction. Everyone. Don't you think there might be some reason for that?
What you do that winds everyone up (And amuses some of us greatly) is wade into threads and make completely ridiculous statements presented as complete fact. You then back them up with ridiculous comments like about your 'considerable experience', or the fact that you've got a best mate who owns every car in the world, or whatever. None of this 'backup' changes the fact the comments in the first place are hilarious at best, downright misleading and wrong at worst.
Then you make it 10x worse by never, ever, ever backing down. You simply argue your point constantly, changing it subtly and adding new parts to back up your story each time until the thread reaches an impasse where people cant really disagree anymore. EVERY TIME.
Thats how your VXR opinion changed from the VXR cars being better than similar aged cars not used on the track to 'I'd rather a looked after car thats been driven hard than one thats not been looked after'.
Yesterdays 200SX thread was a prime example. Straight in, out with a ridiculous comment, when it was made abdundantly clear you were completely wrong by a bunch of 200SX owners, you.... continued to argue, because you once knew a guy who told you that FMIC's were crap.
Then we've got these spec me a car threads, where you ask people to spec you a car and then tell them everything they say is wrong and come across as an expert on all the cars anyway. This one is the best ever, given you've now basically told us you never wanted ANY of the cars in the list, had already ruled them all out without a test drive anyway and are instead buying a Honda Civic.
And no, you didnt rule the M3 out because of a single post in this thread about the cost of tracking it at all, we had an entire 10+ page thread on M3's only a month ago, that you started, that contained all the same information.
Until you sit down and realise why this happens every single time, it will keep happening. I suspect you never well as you do this on other forums as well. But if you did, the problems would go away overnight.
Now, you can either read what I've said and think about it, or you can argue with me about every single point I've made.
I suspect only one of those decisions will make a difference.
Cracking summary there Fox!
But do you actually have a job or are just very ninja at foruming whilst working
Fox's job IS OcUK Motors
[TW]Fox;17720756 said:
I made plenty of mention to maintenance, you're doing that thing again!
[TW]Fox;17720756 said:
Point me to the "considerable experience" quote, because I've not said anything of the kind. I have a lot of friends/associates who are into cars, why do you keep bringing this point up? Are you suggesting I'm fabricating these friends and their cars? Why is it so difficult to comprehend when a large portion of those really into their cars over here belong to the local autotest club?
[TW]Fox;17720756 said:
Why would I back down? I wouldn't have said it in the first place if I didn't believe it, and in none of the recent 'silly threads' has anyone been able to show whatever I've said isn't true.
You also claim I never back down, yet you are exactly the same in response. Which is why these things are never ending.
[TW]Fox;17720756 said:
How was it ridiculous? I mean come on, two people disputed it and one of them saw "new pipes" as the main benefit of a FMIC and listed lower charge temps as proof they have no effect on cooling ffs. The other later conceded that had my post been more humble in its nature ("I've heard" rather than "they do") that he would have been interested in discussing it.
Lots of people can and do have issues with FMICs, cooling and airflow, but you claim it to be ridiculous because you're an expert in this area, right?
[TW]Fox;17720756 said:
I addressed this already, but where have I said I never wanted any of them, and where have I said I haven't driven any of them?
[TW]Fox;17720756 said:
The thing disputed with the M3 was that it could be run with DIY maintenance, mainly valve clearances. You made a huge deal out of it, but failed to provide any information to the contrary of my statements.
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So erm, what car you getting and when?
Learn to duck Mike, stop taking them on the chin
Where is the fun in that?
Ah, so you're trolling then?
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EK9 and next weekend with any luck.
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