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I guess technically you could trace it back to 2008 and you saying whatever it was about the Corsa that caused the first set of smiles I suppose.
 
He was saying something about the Corsa VXR being the absolute best car all round car for under £15k IIRC. Can't remember the specifics but it was the first time I noticed him, at least.
 
Who's definition of weekend car are you using? Plus I stated it was a weekend/occasional use car.


The general definition of a "weekend car". You know, the sort where it doesn't clock up such an epic amount of mileage that you have to discount a car that you considered to be absoultely ideal just a matter of weeks ago because of the MPGz.

One day, when you have a family to support you'll understand that frivolous spending isn't an option, and there is no shame saving a bit of money here and there.

Oh Sweet lord and baby Jesus. This is epic.

"Saving a bit of money" is blowing £5k+ on a 12 year old Hatchback. Seriously, just what planet do you live on. You have a newly born child and young family, yet you're happy to spend a substantial amount of money to potter about in some boyed up Hatchback. That's not "saving money". That's not "Doing the sensible thing". That's not "Putting the family first". That's retarded.

but I'm guessing this is a concept you have no grasp of as you're still driving around in a Soarer when you so openly admit you're bored of it.

Actually, good point. When I did a MikeH thread I actually LISTENED to the advice that I was being given and then I made my choice and have (and will for the foreseeable future) stick with it. That's what you're supposed to be doing when you start a thread asking for advice about motoring issues.
 
Out of the super minis/hot hatches, I still stick by that, but then, that is why I bought one. I believe I put the merit on the way it managed to compromise between handling/comfort power/economy etc.

I never expected anyone to concede on this, because its a Vauxhall, but that is how I saw it (and why I didn't buy a Polo GTi or Clio 197).
 
"Saving a bit of money" is blowing £5k+ on a 12 year old Hatchback. Seriously, just what planet do you live on. You have a newly born child and young family, yet you're happy to spend a substantial amount of money to potter about in some boyed up Hatchback. That's not "saving money". That's not "Doing the sensible thing". That's not "Putting the family first". That's retarded.

There is a difference between running/maintenance costs which one would generally consider to come out of your monthly disposable income, and a lump £5k which is coming from savings for example and would just be sat there doing nothing otherwise. This point is further reinforced by the little depreciation a car like this suffers.

I'll still have most of that £5k in a year or two.

The money spent on extra fuel etc. will be gone.

The fact you cannot comprehend this only goes to reinforce my point that you quoted.
 
If you purchase an EK9 for £5k and manage to sell it for £5k again in 2 YEARS time, then I will personally donate £10 to the donkey sanctuary of your choice.
 
[TW]Fox;17739688 said:
If you purchase an EK9 for £5k and manage to sell it for £5k again in 2 YEARS time, then I will personally donate £10 to the donkey sanctuary of your choice.

I second that! :cool:
 
There is a difference between running/maintenance costs which one would generally consider to come out of your monthly disposable income, and a lump £5k which is coming from savings for example and would just be sat there doing nothing otherwise. This point is further reinforced by the little depreciation a car like this suffers.

I'll still have most of that £5k in a year or two.

The money spent on extra fuel etc. will be gone.

The fact you cannot comprehend this only goes to reinforce my point that you quoted.

But if you only drive it on the occasional hoon of a weekend:

You could spend £2k on the car, losing 25-50% when you come to sell, if you are unlucky or dont look after it

Have £3k to spend on fuel/tax/etc and not have to touch your disposable at all, instead spending it on nappies, baby food and sleeping pills.
 
According to Fox, you shouldn't have to ask.

I feel like I do. I tend to skim through a lot of threads but every post, thread or opinion Mike has is either belittled or slated by Fox and everyone else. Yes, I'd go as far as saying that yourself, Fox is at the forefront of constant bashing. I just think a bit excessive considering he's hardly a bad chap with a foul mouth who launches personal attacks?

He changes his mind all the time? So what? :confused:
 
He changes his mind all the time? So what? :confused:

Thats not really the point. He doesn't generate this level of response each time just because it's indecisive. Heck Joshy is more indecisive than he is.

I think what you need to do is just read a few more thread as they develop and you'll either 'get it' or you wont. Going over it now is counterproductive really.

It isn't just me, I'm just more noticebale because I post in this forum more. It's absolutely everyone pretty much. I've posted in this section for 9 years and I've never, ever, seeen somebody consistently generate the level of response Mike gets.
 
I think the donkey sanctuary may have to go without your donation. In a week or two, Mike will have sold the Civic for a more practical family machine, like a motorbike, a G-Whiz, or a combine harvester.

I think you should get the RX8.
 
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[TW]Fox;17739688 said:
If you purchase an EK9 for £5k and manage to sell it for £5k again in 2 YEARS time, then I will personally donate £10 to the donkey sanctuary of your choice.

I didn't say it wouldn't depreciate at all.

But if you only drive it on the occasional hoon of a weekend:

You could spend £2k on the car, losing 25-50% when you come to sell, if you are unlucky or dont look after it

Have £3k to spend on fuel/tax/etc and not have to touch your disposable at all, instead spending it on nappies, baby food and sleeping pills.

Why would I want to spend my savings on running a car? I see car ownership as a ladder, and in a years time if I fancy something better, I do not want to start from £2k to add additional funding to, I want to start from as close to what I spend initially as possible.
 
I see car ownership as a ladder

Seems like it's more of a slide than a ladder?

I want to start from as close to what I spend initially as possible.

Cars depreciate. Welcome to car buying 101. Even an EK9 will depreciate. Ask Tim - I notice you've stopped citing him as a reference since he said he lost £2.5k+ on his and that his Clio is pretty much as good.

Whether you spend your 'savings' or running or buying it makes no real difference - its all car-related-money at the end of the day. Sure once youve bought some petrol you dont get it back but once youve paid £5k for an old Honda that wont come back either. Not at the full £5k anyway
 
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Why would I want to spend my savings on running a car? I see car ownership as a ladder, and in a years time if I fancy something better, I do not want to start from £2k to add additional funding to, I want to start from as close to what I spend initially as possible.

I assume you mean to climb this ladder?

Corsa VXR > ST500 > Focus 1.6 ???





Damn Fox.
 
I didn't say it wouldn't depreciate at all.



Why would I want to spend my savings on running a car? I see car ownership as a ladder, and in a years time if I fancy something better, I do not want to start from £2k to add additional funding to, I want to start from as close to what I spend initially as possible.

Buy a £1k shed and put that £4k in shares. In a year you could have doubled your money - that is a ladder.
I can't believe people buy a more expensive car so that they have less to find when they buy the next car.

Sounds like this EK9 is purely a financial decision based on the expectation of zero depreciation.
 
Well the Corsa to the ST was an upgrade, and the drop from the ST was to two cars. Sure you fall back down sometimes, but family comes first and I will get back up again :)


Buy a £1k shed and put that £4k in shares. In a year you could have doubled your money - that is a ladder.

Or I could be left with nothing?
 
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