The UK sucks...

benktlottie said:
I have slapped her once in 12 years. And I would do it again if i was warrented.

I am a very good Dad. We have good standards and morals in this house. She knows her P's and Q's and could have tea with the Queen. thats the way I was brought up. She is the most balanced and respectful 12 year old around. She will aspire to great things. But she knows if she messes up, she will be punished accordinally.

Example - She forged a signature in her homework diary recently. She though it was very funny, she was upto mischief and wanted to see how long it took me to realise! I wrote in the following weeks entry that as she thought it was so funny, then I thought it would be just as funny for her to have a detention for her 'crime.' Her teacher on the other hand disagreed! I went to see him to ask him to explain. He told me that it was a psychological punishment, and the school dont condone that type of punishment !

So...I removed her PC fom her room for 1 week. Worked a treat, she wont do that again.
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i am glad the government has not frightened you into doing the wrong thing - like with their stupid no smacking campaign.
 
neoboy said:
Funny how I seem to be thinking exactly the opposite about UK nowadays. Done my GCSEs, passed A levels and now about to be offered a nice stable job to work for a housing group and then will do a part time job at a bar during nights. Life never looked sweeter to me.
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Good for you. Wait a few years, and gain more responsibilites. Thats no disrespect to you, life was very rosy for me when I was 18-20 years old. Wait until you buy a house, start paying more bills, and get older! It wont be so rosy for you in 5 years....
 
Well done Benkolatie...I support your every move and how you played it. Im from the old school - i belive in punishing kids for their ways if needed. I dont fear or care about what society and social services says.
 
benktlottie said:
I encourage the 'live life a little' attitude, theres absoutely nothing to gain by getting preggers so young. When will these stupid teenagers realise this ? It isnt cool...
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you fathered your child at 18.
 
benktlottie said:
She is the most balanced and respectful 12 year old around.
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The quality of life for a lot of people has improved vastly over the last 30 years unfortunatly this has also enabled moral standards to decline.

Nature governs the rest of the animals on this planet, but through evoloution and intelligence we have managed to make our own rules and civilistations far removed from the ways we used to live.

This works if people are socially responsible and are educated to understand and respect the structure of our society. Unfortunatly more and more people are not brought up with this structure to guide them so they simply go back to animal instinct and survival of the fittest.

Lost what I was trying to say but my point was not to be so surprised at all the bad things that happen in this country, they only seem bad because of where your looking at them from.
 
MookJong said:
The quality of life for a lot of people has improved vastly over the last 30 years unfortunatly this has also enabled moral standards to decline..
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I dont think moral decline has anything to do with standards of living. In my opinion, it is down to the Liberty and freedom attitude of the society and the first world mentality...if you see what i mean.
 
Saytan said:
you fathered your child at 18.
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But my wife was 21 (we'd also been steady for 2 years), and I was in a full time job earning 14.5k, and my wife was in full time work earning 16k and we were in the process of buying our first house. Its slightly different from the 'Chatham' stereotype of no job, no house and no money isn't it?
 
i agree, just came back from a 3 week holiday in Oz - stayed in Sydney for most of that time.

i wish i lived there!
 
benktlottie said:
Her teacher on the other hand disagreed! I went to see him to ask him to explain. He told me that it was a psychological punishment, and the school dont condone that type of punishment !
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So what punishment did the school suggest? Or did they find it funny too?
 
benktlottie said:
Title says it all.

Yet another interest rate rise, ridiclous prices with everything, Eastern Europeans flooding the country and all this Islamic rubbish.

I remember (and I'm only 30) that this country of ours used to be great, I was proud to say I was English. Apparently, I'm not English anymore, I'm British. Kids running riot, schools not caring. Theres no freedom of speech, I'm not allowed to truely allowed to express myself when it comes to people/colour/race/creeds. The compensation culture, the fact that every other advert on daytime TV is for a loan, and the draconian banks. Bureaucrats and red tapes stop us progressing. Get Labour out. My daughter is too worried to take her IPOD to school in case it gets nicked. She doesnt feel safe walking through the park. She's 12 years old. I have a 8 month old here aswell, and I wonder what it will be like when she is 12.

I am an optimist, but I am finding it increasingly difficult living here.

Plus, I have also found out that 2 nonces have been housed in our street, and on my street is a junior school and 2 nurseries ! Someone somewhere thought long and hard about that one!
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agreed mate, im 23 years old and seriously thinking about living abroad, Labour have got no guts, foreigners have ruined this county and we arent kicking them out

How long have we had a serious problem with immigrants coming in? 10 years? has anything been done about it? nope, they are just encouraging it

the best thing this country can do is get BNP as government for three years only
 
Samtheman1k said:
So what punishment did the school suggest? Or did they find it funny too?
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A chat round the table to discuss the wrongs of forging signatures. Well, that chat had been had the day I discovered it. What I find ironic is that she didnt try to forge mine or the wifes signature, she signed her own name - and her form tutor didnt even noticed. He signed his bit that week....
 
ElRazur said:
Well done Benkolatie...I support your every move and how you played it. Im from the old school - i belive in punishing kids for their ways if needed. I dont fear or care about what society and social services says.
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Yes, punishment is a good thing, and I personally support physical punishment. But only within reason. For example, I wouldn't - and I quote, "I would smash her to within inches of death." for becoming pregnant - doesn't quite sound reasonable to me :)

-RaZ
 
benktlottie said:
Title says it all.

Yet another interest rate rise, ridiclous prices with everything, Eastern Europeans flooding the country and all this Islamic rubbish.

I remember (and I'm only 30) that this country of ours used to be great, I was proud to say I was English. Apparently, I'm not English anymore, I'm British. Kids running riot, schools not caring. Theres no freedom of speech, I'm not allowed to truely allowed to express myself when it comes to people/colour/race/creeds. The compensation culture, the fact that every other advert on daytime TV is for a loan, and the draconian banks. Bureaucrats and red tapes stop us progressing. Get Labour out. My daughter is too worried to take her IPOD to school in case it gets nicked. She doesnt feel safe walking through the park. She's 12 years old. I have a 8 month old here aswell, and I wonder what it will be like when she is 12.

I am an optimist, but I am finding it increasingly difficult living here.

Plus, I have also found out that 2 nonces have been housed in our street, and on my street is a junior school and 2 nurseries ! Someone somewhere thought long and hard about that one!
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Nice rant. Now go get yourself educated...
 
MoNkeE said:
Yes, punishment is a good thing, and I personally support physical punishment. But only within reason. For example, I wouldn't - and I quote, "I would smash her to within inches of death." for becoming pregnant - doesn't quite sound reasonable to me :)

-RaZ
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LOL, I wouldnt actully beat her to within an inch of death! Its a metaphor...
 
Things have got worse in this country. I dread to think what my daughter is growing up to. A lot of things need to be addressed in this country. GB has gone to the dogs!
 
Seriously if I judged this country by the threads made on this forum I would've thought we lived in some country where riots happened everyday and that was on a point of collapse. I live on a rather poor estate now and it is full of useless, leeching lot (and some hardworking people trying their best to get out of it). I just find this a bigger motivation to do my best to move out of this place and leave those ignoramuses behind. I really don't see immigration as a solution to this country's problems but rather improving people's attitudes towards others.

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the best thing this country can do is get BNP as government for three years only
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That is possibly the worst thing that can happen to this country.
 
Well whilst it's not a metaphor, I understand what you mean - Just through the plainness of text, I thought you may have actually been serious :p

-RaZ
 
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