The unemployed

I'm inbetween jobs for a couple of months and went into my local the other week, said there's a 4-6 week wait for claims to be activated. It was worse the other month (3 weeks for initial interview, another 4 for claim to start), with them having to refer people to Coventry (from Stoke) to get them signed on quicker.

Imagine waiting two months for £200. Hilarious.
 
I became Unemployed at Christmas, and now theres nothing about as its holiday time, no ones recruiting as they are all on away on holidays etc... im looking still thats what im doing, but as i said what with it being holiday season now, theres not much about, local paper that has the jobs in every week used to have a fair few pages of em, past few weeks its been about the odd page, will pick up again closer to Christmas like it always does. :)
 
Its not suprising though that the numbers are so high because the average wage for people who have just graduated is 13k. 13k!
 
reflex said:
Nothing wrong with the unemployed just becuase you want a job, others might not - why do they want to earn shed loads of money for some massive business and be paid peanuts. Theres loads of factors that cause unemployment and to moan or think your better than somebody becuase their unemployed is just sad really.
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Interesting point, the main problem in the UK is as Telescopi pointed out, there isnt a big enough gap between dole and a low-average paid job. So as much as it frustrates me that some people decide not to work and just enjoy other peoples tax money, I can see why they make that choice.

I have to admit I don't have much respect for someone who just doesnt want a job full stop. That again seems to stem from this country's encouragement/willingness to let people to be underachievers and embrace apathy. Wouldnt be surprised to see unemployment renamed "deferred employment" :p

I'd be bored out of my tree without my job for the mental stimulation and the friends I have there. So whilst I need the money I'd much rather work for it. I just wouldnt be able to find enough other stuff to do (or people to do it with!).
 
Having been on the dole I have to say the main group of people who got on my wick, were the ones who were allowed to claim the dole but couldn't speak/read/write a word of English.

How are these people supposed to go for job interviews (which you are required to do in order to carry on claiming) if they can't communicate in English.

Why are this people allowed to get away with claiming?????? :mad:
 
reflex said:
Nothing wrong with the unemployed just becuase you want a job, others might not - why do they want to earn shed loads of money for some massive business and be paid peanuts. Theres loads of factors that cause unemployment and to moan or think your better than somebody becuase their unemployed is just sad really.
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wtf you on.

I hope I have misunderstood your post otherwise you are saying that there is nothing wrong with the scum that laze around at home living off other peoples hard graft?

People dont go to work because they like it, people go to work to earn money for christ sake. To bring a better quality of life (beginning with themselves) and moving towards their family later on.

Quite frankly I AM better than the chav scum that sit around at home breeding to get more benefits or the benefit tourists that come to our country and then start spending other peoples money :mad:

There is a place for job seekers allowance without a doubt but at the moment the system is flawed and heavily abused. And from our point of view, the Labour government are not willing to do anything about it!
 
I think Noxis means to say you have ignored the fact that many (not all) people who are out of work are taking benefits which we, the tax payer, are paying for.

Don't be a wage slave - great, fully behind ya, just don't make me pay for it (And no, I'm not suggesting you are, I'm speaking generally).

Perhaps posts could be a little less heated, just because we're behind computer screens we don't need to be rude.

Noxis said:
wtf you on.

I hope I have misunderstood your post otherwise you are saying that there is nothing wrong with the scum that laze around at home living off other peoples hard graft?

People dont go to work because they like it, people go to work to earn money for christ sake. To bring a better quality of life (beginning with themselves) and moving towards their family later on.

Quite frankly I AM better than the chav scum that sit around at home breeding to get more benefits or the benefit tourists that come to our country and then start spending other peoples money :mad:

There is a place for job seekers allowance without a doubt but at the moment the system is flawed and heavily abused. And from our point of view, the Labour government are not willing to do anything about it!
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MonkeyMan said:
I've always thought there should be some kind of community work for those on benefits. If they can't do a normal job, then get them cleaning up the area they live in.
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My views exactly, no one should get 'free' money just because they don't want to work (and are seen not to be making an effort to find a job)...give them a paint brush and a tin of paint and let them paint old ladies fences. Council tax might fall to if they have to do council related jobs!
 
Im unemployed at the minute, my parents moved from north of scotland down to middlesbrough so I thought i'd tag along, let my job with royal mail in scotland which Im realising now was a stupid thing to do, I could atleast have tried for a transfer. Im looking for IT work now, I have a HND in networking/technical support but I havn't been invited to one interview yet, mainly because every job Ive seen advertised requires some sort of experience which I dont have. Ive tried sending off C.V's randomly to IT companies.

I just found out today I cant even join the armed forces because of my nut allergy :(

Im going to have to visit the local royal mail office down here, see if they will take on an experienced postie.

Ive learned a lesson anyway, never again will I leave a job without having another one lined up..
 
miller745 said:
Im looking for IT work now, I have a HND in networking/technical support but I havn't been invited to one interview yet, mainly because every job Ive seen advertised requires some sort of experience which I dont have. Ive tried sending off C.V's randomly to IT companies.
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This is the ting I have noticed most about the profession I am in. It took me ages to get into an accounting practice as I didn't have any real experience only the AAT course as my qualification. HOwever its kind of a catch 22. They won't give you a job due to lack of experience but how are you supposed to get experience if you can't get a job.
 
While there are lots of jobs out there, it doesn't necessarily follow that all of the unemployed would want to do them.

I was unemployed for about 18months back in the early 90s. I could have probably got a job in 5 minutes if I was willing to set my sights lower and work at McDs or behind a checkout, however I knew that I'd be selling myself short and could do better. The state was willing to support me while I looked for work and I eventually got a job which I felt suited me well.

The people who should really be targeted are those who have no desire to get a job of any kind and are willing to live off the state for ever.
 
My mate recently graduated from Bristol, he now has a 2:1 BSc Biology degree and an MSc in Deaf Studies.

Problem is although he's an incredibly nice bloke, highly intelligent etc. He's very deaf.

So far he's had no luck in finding any employment and it's not like he hasn't been trying. Admitedly he's not the sort who's likely to apply for factory work, and he can't work in a bar serving drinks as it would be practically impossible.

I'm sure he'll find a job but it's taking him quite a while.
 
I have nothing against the unemployed, if you can manage without having to go to work 5 days a week then good on you. It is people that claim benefits and have no plans of ever working that are the problem. fair enough if you are really disablled or only on it while looking for a job.

And don't get me started on "pram pushers" (the chavs who walk around all day in tracksuits smoking and pushing a pram with 3 kids, the more kids the more money).
 
I think there should be a cap on the number of children that benefits will be given for, for the unemployed.
They shouldn't be paid everytime they pump out more and more kids.

There should be support for two and then theyre on their own. If they choose to have more children it should be on their own back, not let the state pay for 5+ children who are most likely going to go down the same road as their parents.

Problem is when families like this have 5 kids compared to perhaps 1 or 2 in a working family, it's easy to see how the future may become out of balance.

A lot of girls see having kids so young as a 'career choice' as they have no qualifications to speak of and they'd rather do that then work a minimum wage job, whether they have the resources to pay for it or not.

Having children should be a privilege not a right.
 
The good thing about benefits is that it dissuades the unemployed from turning to crime to fund their lifestely. A bribe for the lazy if you will ;)
 
crystaline said:
Problem is when families like this have 5 kids compared to perhaps 1 or 2 in a working family, it's easy to see how the future may become out of balance.
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Do you have any statistics for this inbalance because I think your assumptions are wrong.

I am one of 5 children, my mother was a stay-at-home mum until the last nipper had gone to college and my father was out of work for as long as I could remember (must be 7-10 years - some jobs but only temporary).

Of those 5 children there is one structural engineer, one warehouse manager, one computer programmer, one school teacher and one musician (french horn, nothing grungy).

To my knowledge none of my siblings have ever claimed benefits unlike the son of a wealthy Solicitor I knew from school who claimed while he was looking for work after leaving university - my brother was job hunting for 10 months after leaving university but just got a job in kwiksave.

Personally I think mothers should stay at home and raise their children properly, fathers should earn a living wage to support a family and the press and politicians should keep their noses out of it.
 
Why shouldn't farthers stay at home and the women go to work, my mum wouldn't be happy with being a house wife. She drives a Merc and has a good job and she looks after me very well.

I can understand why it could be beneficial for one parent stay home, but it shouldn't have to be the mum.
 
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