I'm watching. I always am.
I'll pass on this one though, not worth the bother or effort.
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I'm watching. I always am.
I'll pass on this one though, not worth the bother or effort.
they arent intresting anyway all the pro scotish people want an independant scotland but.
expect all the oil and gas in the north sea
expect the UK army to protect them.
expect the pound as a currency
expect no share of the UK debt
expect to stick glasgow next to liverpool and claim its an english city
etc
Without Scotland, the Conservatives would not win constantly. That was what I was calling rubbish.
I was aware of his base point though his conclusion was (and still is) absurd. The number of constituencies in Scotland aren't that high and would rarely make much of a difference.
The more interesting debate in all of this is why Scottish people refuse to vote Conservatives (one I've had a few times with my girlfriends mother who is a proud SNP supporter. And no, she can't really explain why she wouldn't vote for the Tories. I also imagine that I'm one of the first Tory supporters she's ever met...)
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Fair enough, hadn't seen you in a while 
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No.
Why didn't you come to the meet? Thought you'd come acroper (or whatever the phrase is).
I'm not actually sure there are many pro Scottish people on here. I see a number of anti Scottish people coming up in these threads but not many pro Scottish people.
Sorry ahleckz had a bit of a mishap and managed to mangle my hand, that weekend didn't go to plan very much. Next time I'm westerly I'll give you a shout see if you are about?
In a word, and you know what word it's going to be, Thatcher.
There is still an overwhelming feeling in Scotland, passed down from parents and grandparents, that, especially in the Thatcher era, Scotland has been mistreated by conservative governments. The destruction of industry, mining and manufacturing had a pretty devastating effect on communities both here and in areas of Wales and Northern England where the conservatives still struggle.
I would expect the off-shore oil and gas reserves would remain in the hands of the private companies that currently own them. I would also suspect that the majority of this oil and gas would continue to be landed in Aberdeen and the Shetlands, unless Westminster could find some way to magically move the industry south of the border.
Most of our oil and gas revenue is from taxation. Presumably Scotland would have the power to tax it's own industry? Assumin the industry stays in Scotland (highly likely), Scotland would have the lion's share of UK oil and gas revenue.
anti scotish for beeing realistic?
pound is weak enough without an independent scotland lowering its value.
part of the uk debt belongs to you.
we dont want glasgow.
if you want an army pay for its upkeep your self..
how about england leaves the UK and all the debt can goto the rest of you who remain in it? sounds like a good deal , well throw in liverpool to sweaten the deal
Any chance of you explaining your points a bit better? I'm interested and baffled in equal amounts.
lol wat
Ohh doesn't end there, Bank of Scotland is an English institution.
No, there have been large threads like these in the past that quite strong anti-Scottish sentiment has been shown. I'm all for banter and everything but I'm aware of it.
There's a difference between having one sided views and being anti Scottish full stop.
No it is not. The Bank of England is a UK institution, however while it was based loosely on a concept devised by a Scotsman it was actually founded by an Englishman.
Get your facts in a row....
I know, i just find the idea of both banks contradicting funny.
Either way doesn't really matter anyway.
I still think that each nation should be independent to the point where interests collide, 300 years of an archaic system wont do frankly.
Doesn't matter in the slightest if the union falls apart, given the EU's slow but steady push for greater integration, & our home grown politicians refusal to give the population a say on the matter, i fully expect all the current member countries of the union to have been swallowed up by the EU within a matter of decades.