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To think that Unionists where threatening Scots that if we where to vote for independence, we'd have to adopt the euro. It was all lies but it looks rather appealing now.
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I think that Scotland is a great place, populated on the whole with great people, I’m only really familiar with the parts that I visited when I was a trucker, for instance Inverkip power station, near you, where I was running transformer oil to when I drove a tanker for Castrol, likewise Invergordon, way up in the north east.
I’ve spent time in Glasgow, Edinburgh, Peebles, and Dundee.
I’ve never viewed Scotland as a foreign country, I see the Scots as Britons, who speak with a different accent, and even if you became independent, I’d want England to have your back if you were threatened by another country.
Even if Scotland voted to secede from the Union, and good luck if it does, I don’t think that I’d live long enough to see Brussels welcome you into the E.U., and for me to walk into a pub in Buchanan Street, Glasgow, and buy a large vodka with euros.
As I understood it, Scotland doesn't qualify for EU membership on its own regardless. So I remember the suggestion being more that Scotland would have to mint its own currency.
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Where was that voice in the Brexit negotiations? Scotland was frozen out with no representation. In the UK we seem to be insignificant while being part of the EU means we have an equal footing with all the other countries and they would respect our place among them (see Ireland). There have already been several EU leaders commenting favourably on Scotland joining.
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It's funny, I look at what you wrote and cant help turning it into.... I don't get the whole Tory line of leaving the EU to then go and be a servant of the USA lol. In the EU Scotland has a voice, on their own they are insignificant.
You see I don't get that. Atm they don't appear to have a voice and are just ignored whereas as members of the EU they would have a voice (and I suspect be net gainers on their payments as well)
No they wouldn't. Scotland would be a very minor player in the EU. Assuming they even let them in.
They would also have the UK between them and the rest of Europe. What does Scotland (being 500m further North) have to offer in trade which can't be bought from the UK?
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I believe they would be a bigger player in the EU than they are now as part of the UK, especially when the UK is out of the EU.
Then you are deluded, sorry. Scotland doesn't have much wealth, land mass or population on it's own. Countries like Germany and France aren't going to listen to them any more than they do Eastern Europe.
The only thing they have really is oil, but oil prices are down and demand is going to drop massively over the next few decades.
Well for starters everything from Scotland would be tariff free unlike the rest of the UK so up to 40% cheaper on things like lamb.
They would have more of a say as a minor member of the EU than they do now as part of the UK.
As a member of the EU when the rest of the UK isnt will be very good for attracting businesses from England esp financial services as they can just move their premises north of the border.
40% lol. No, WTO tariffs are something like 2p on every pound.
Scotland would also need to trade through England (now being a competitor) unless it wants to send everything by ship, which is more expensive than a lorry. If they wanted to make it difficult for them it would be very easy...
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Been working in banking in London over 10 years, not a chance people want to move to scotland,
What crack pipe are you smoking? WTO tariffs on meat export from Scotland varies from 38% to 91% depending on the product.
http://beefandlamb.ahdb.org.uk/mark...iffs-for-exporting-to-the-eu-under-wto-rules/
So thats a bit more than "2p in the pound". To me that's between 38p and 91p in the pound.
And if you genuinely believe that tariffs on meat is only 2p in the pound then you are just proving what everybody thinks about leavers - they dont know what they are talking about.
And its because of Tariffs like these that the UK farming industry are saying lots of farms will go under and a no deal Brexit might kill of 45,000 farms but people like you just dismiss it as project fear.
You tell me how a farmer who is making £29k per annum profit on average can cope with suddenly getting up to almost half their current price for their meat and stay profitable?
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People might not want to, it might be appealing for banks though. Anyway whats wrong with Edinburgh compared with Frankfurt?
This is absolute delusion. Scotlands entire future would depend on a free trade agreement with the rest of the UK and with one of those in place, no need for anything to move north of the border. Plus all banks etc that need a base inside the EU post brexit will have already left London well before Scotland ever becomes an independent country.
Nothing, but the financial capital of world is going to be fine after Brexit. There's too much going on with the arts, culture and cutting edge tech for them to move. Sure, they'll de-risk and set up operations in other places but the core will continue to be in London.
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The falling value of sterling is not a big concern to me at this point. An increase in prices might curb some of the outrageous materialism of the last few decades and if nothing else it should boost out exports to some extent. But the good thing is, unlike those using the Euro our government actually has the economic levers to address this issue.
What, like raising base rates or cutting back the money supply?
Good thing the BOE has those in their pocket. Handy heading into a recession.
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