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[lude1962]

So what the actual rule they are skirting? What's the new TPD actually say? I did a google but couldn't find anything newer than May/June.

cant sell juice in bottles bigger than 10ml/stronger than 20mg to consumers, trade etc are excluded

but from May next year, juices have to registered with UK health dept, but to do this you must register the product with EU containing info about ingredients testing etc.
It will then be illegal to sell juices to consumers if the juice isn't registered.
The UK health dept will be maintaining a list of producers/juices, not on list=illegal to sell.

UK gov guidance here

 

[Josh]

So what the actual rule they are skirting? What's the new TPD actually say? I did a google but couldn't find anything newer than May/June.

TBH I have no idea, skirting was the wrong word.

I don't think they are trying to get one over on the TDP, maybe I should have used the word "abiding" - either way it's a naff rule and a naff situation where I have to order 15x10ml bottles.

Bloody brexit...

 

[Rudeboy1]

I have a kanger subvod, how often should i change the coils? And can anyone tell me why my liquid is so harsh?

 

[Begbie]

Nice man, what you gone for?

Strawberry and their ECR thing.

Had ECR before, but was using a standard my first vape kit. So want to try it sub ohm.

 

[Begbie]

Rejuiced now send stock in 10ml bottles to skirt the TDP, so me ordering 150ml could be an interesting sized package.

Back to self mixing it is.

I ordered 120ml from them recently, yep 12 bottles. Decanted into a 30ml and 100ml bottle. Hopefully they just start selling 100ml empty bottles with an easy pour option on the 10ml. The 10ml bottles are crap for pouring, I toke the needles off and poured in.

The 10mls are too small to be able to squeeze. Vape problems.

 

[cu3ed]

That's why you should move to mixing your own, folks!

Rather hilariously, in the same email, they said about how..you know..you could say...buy..this measurement of concentrate...then..I dont know..mix it with this one..in a bottle x size...and hey..what you know..300mls of you fav flavors lol.

Guess Ill have to learn how to mix then.

 

[lude1962]

Rather hilariously, in the same email, they said about how..you know..you could say...buy..this measurement of concentrate...then..I dont know..mix it with this one..in a bottle x size...and hey..what you know..300mls of you fav flavors lol.

Rule bending, you then become a producer and not a 'customer'

 

[Rilot]

I have a kanger subvod, how often should i change the coils? And can anyone tell me why my liquid is so harsh?

Details of the liquid? How many mg/ml? What power are you vaping at?
I would change the coils in any sub-ohm tank that's in daily use every 1 to 2 weeks.

 

[Josh]

I ordered 120ml from them recently, yep 12 bottles. Decanted into a 30ml and 100ml bottle. Hopefully they just start selling 100ml empty bottles with an easy pour option on the 10ml. The 10ml bottles are crap for pouring, I toke the needles off and poured in.

The 10mls are too small to be able to squeeze. Vape problems.

Snap I have about 5x100ml bottles empty on my shelf, I think I've just found a use for them.

 

[krooton]

Does the TDP thing apply if you are buying juices at 0% nic?

 

[Gee]

Rather hilariously, in the same email, they said about how..you know..you could say...buy..this measurement of concentrate...then..I dont know..mix it with this one..in a bottle x size...and hey..what you know..300mls of you fav flavors lol.

Guess Ill have to learn how to mix then.

I've posted before many a time in this thread the required stuff to get you mixing. Gimme a shout if you need help.

Does the TDP thing apply if you are buying juices at 0% nic?

Pretty sure 0mg Nic is exempt.

 

[ttaskmaster]

Thinking of getting a G-Priv...
Is there much love for these, here, or is it a let-down?

 

[Gee]

Thinking of getting a G-Priv...
Is there much love for these, here, or is it a let-down?

Smok devices are crap imo. So-called 220W device that runs off 2x18650's, that isn't going to happen.

Next device for me is either a 160W Boxer or a Smoant Battlestar.

 

[ttaskmaster]

Smok devices are crap imo. So-called 220W device that runs off 2x18650's, that isn't going to happen.

They say the same about 200w Joyetech and eLeaf devices too, but I'm unlikely to get as high as 75w, TBH...

Is that all that's crap about them?

 

[krooton]

Pretty sure 0mg Nic is exempt.

Awesome, I don't actually need the nic (never been addicted to it) and already just vape at 3%.

Big bottles of 0%, here I come!

 

[cu3ed]

I've posted before many a time in this thread the required stuff to get you mixing. Gimme a shout if you need help.



Pretty sure 0mg Nic is exempt.

Ill read up first, seems to make sense, especially as im a custard whore, get that nailed down and I assume I just make up my own batch, seems theres a few recommended "starter" kits.

 

[Gee]

They say the same about 200w Joyetech and eLeaf devices too, but I'm unlikely to get as high as 75w, TBH...

Is that all that's crap about them?

I recall reading something on Reddit about one causing a huge house fire over in the US. Think it was the M80 Plus.

https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/35u6p0/smok_m80_plus_what_a_fitting_name/

Awesome, I don't actually need the nic (never been addicted to it) and already just vape at 3%.

Big bottles of 0%, here I come!

3%? So you vape 30mg liquid do you?

Go down the DIY route and make it yourself. Will cost pennies if you're making it zero nic!

Ill read up first, seems to make sense, especially as im a custard whore, get that nailed down and I assume I just make up my own batch, seems theres a few recommended "starter" kits.

Don't bother with the starter kits, they're pointless. 500g x 0.01g scales, 1L VG/PG, 250ml 72mg PG Nic, concentrates and bottles. All you need.

 

[lude1962]

DIY route isn't safe either
Nicotine Base Liquid

The TPD requirements on nicotine concentration (20mg/ml maximum) and size of presentation (10ml maximum for refill container and 2ml maximum for e-cigarettes) apply to products sold to end consumers (irrespective of whether the end consumer intends to modify the product).

The requirements do not apply to ‘trade sales’ i.e. where you are selling industrial quantities to another business and the sale is not directed to a consumer

 

[adolf hamster]

I have a kanger subvod, how often should i change the coils? And can anyone tell me why my liquid is so harsh?

When its burnt out. Some juices can kill a coil in a day, others will last weeks or even months.

Liquid being harsh can be down to too much nic or too much pg, generally the former.

My rule of thumb is anything above 50/50 being harsh is probably the nic, but then i dknt have a pg intolerance and its subjective, i know many refuse to vape anything bar max vg

 

[pgi947]

Any of you chaps own a goblin mini v3? If so what do you think of it, worth a punt at £11?