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Poll: The Vega Review Thread.

What do we think about Vega?

  • What has AMD been doing for the past 1-2 years?

  • It consumes how many watts and is how loud!!!

  • It is not that bad.

  • Want to buy but put off by pricing and warranty.

  • I will be buying one for sure (I own a Freesync monitor so have little choice).

  • Better red than dead.

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Gerard said:
They've had vapour chambers in the past, 69 series had them as well. We're really getting to a point where they need to rethink these things as the blowers are simply not upto the job anymore.
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Oh yeah so they did forgot about that, went back and looked at the heatsink on the 6970, gotta admlt it looks way better/beefier than anything AMD have made since when it comes to heatsinks, of course that doesn't mean it would be better than what is on the vega, but damn look at that thing compared to the vega heatsink.
 
Nablaoperator said:
Also need few technical details on liquid cooled:
which way to move the switch on top for power saving mode
whats are lowest voltages and corresponding clock speeds for core and memory
how to switch off the red/blue led effects - even the wraith spire on the 1700 has a red circle illumination, how to switch that off as well?
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  1. The second, power saving BIOS is with the switch away from the PCI bracket.
  2. GPU-Z thinks the minimum core voltage is 0.7688V. I can't find any way to read the min. memory voltage (WattMan only shows the max.).
  3. Minimum core speed is 26MHz. Minimum memory speed is 167MHz.
  4. There are two DIP switches for the LEDs right next to them, one each for red and blue. That means you can set them to red, blue, purple, or off. EDIT: The illuminated RADEON logo and little corner cube are always red, and I don't think they can be turned off.
 
EDIT: by PCI bracket you mean the IO panel and not the PCI slots, right?

hi, my intention is to underclock - i like to play old rpgs like arcanum of might & magick - still have BG1 and BG2 on my checklist of never before played games

just came to know that states p0-p5 are locked on wattman.. will these states adjust to lower values in states 6-7, if not, are there 3rd party tools or some reg value that can be accessed directly?

waiting for crossfire drivers now.. till then enjoying the residual inventory of games on my maxwell titan pc
 
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FiremanSam said:
But why would the site want to keep up a review of a card that didn't match what everyone else were getting.

The public would look at it, think Guru3D must be rubbish as their review is so far off the mark compared to others and then wouldn't come back. That would lead to lost readers and revenue.
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I wouldnt see it that way, just them printing the results of their test, there is nothing in that instance stopping them doing a second test if they think its wrong, but they shouldnt pull an article based on the vendor requesting it.
 
Mr Evil said:
There are two DIP switches for the LEDs right next to them, one each for red and blue. That means you can set them to red, blue, purple, or off. EDIT: The illuminated RADEON logo and little corner cube are always red, and I don't think they can be turned off.
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That's not how the switches work - the labelling is a little ambiguous, but the left switch is just to turn the LEDs on/off, and the right switch toggles between red or blue, but not purple. I managed to get the right switch in between both positions, but that just left the LEDs off (the slide switch is break-before-make) rather than purple. I'm not sure about the left switch turning off the RADEON logo - I've already got my Vega under an EK waterblock so can't readily get to the LED connector to check.
 
Nablaoperator said:
EDIT: by PCI bracket you mean the IO panel and not the PCI slots, right?
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Yes, I suppose one could also call it the "rear bracket" or "chassis bracket" to be more correct. There used to be a time when cards that could be used in these locations weren't PCIe or PCI, but ISA and VLB...

Nablaoperator said:
just came to know that states p0-p5 are locked on wattman.. will these states adjust to lower values in states 6-7, if not, are there 3rd party tools or some reg value that can be accessed directly?
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You could try WattTool to see the configuration of the lower p-states, but without having used it myself I don't know if it's possible (or sensible) to adjust them.
 
Well it looks like the rumour of some 3rd party card manufacturers not wanting to jump onboard Vega may have been justified. Obviously as mentioned in the video it's a silicon lottery but we all know that, and for a Strix card to perform worse than the AMD reference is very disappointing. Only benefit I can see is it being quieter.

 
Richeh said:
Well it looks like the rumour of some 3rd party card manufacturers not wanting to jump onboard Vega may have been justified. Obviously as mentioned in the video it's a silicon lottery but we all know that, and for a Strix card to perform worse than the AMD reference is very disappointing. Only benefit I can see is it being quieter.
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Apart from the necessary evil of AMD having to release it with little headroom for OC and a high power draw it was built well from the start. It is handling that power fine after all.

The only fettling a 3rd party can value add is a big fat open fan cooler.
 
Guru3D republished ASUS Radeon ROG RX Vega 64 STRIX 8GB review

** September 25th 2017 - Please read **
A day after initial publication and sharing our results/review ASUS of this article asked us to take the review down. The story at the time was that they shipped the card to us with the wrong BIOS. We've been eagerly awaiting the new BIOS for two weeks now, but nothing is coming from ASUS. ASUS did present a specific driver on their website, we tried it yet it is based on the 17.7 driver series which (obviously) did not make an improvement either.

Ergo, we are re-publishing the results as-as. I do want make a side-note on temps and noise levels. After we disassembled the card for a photo-shoot, we reassembled it and obviously applied new thermal paste on the GPU. This shaved off 3 degrees 3 in heavy load conditions. That three degrees is significant as at that stage the card is more silent as well. That said, we are publishing the results as-is. When you purchase a product as your average end-user, you're not likely going to swap out TIM as it breaks warranty. But for those daring enough and interested in this card, it might be a nice tip. ASUS states that the STRIX has a more extensive power limiter and should be faster, however we state that the thermals are throttling the card down rendering the extra power limiter fairly inoperable.

Should ASUS come up with a new BIOS (which we doubt) we'll update the test results.
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http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/review-asus-radeon-rog-rx-vega-64-strix-8gb-dd5b3.html
 
I can't understand how a custom cooled card can be worse than an AMD reference blower.
Surely, other than the BIOS default settings, the cooler is the only thing different on the liquid cooled version?
So if the 3rd party coolers can cool somewhere between the reference blower and the liquid cooler the card should perform somewhere between the reference blower and liquid cooled cards?
We know the Strix isn't a bad cooler as we've seen it on a number of other cards doing a good job. I know Asus (and other manufacturers that do Nvidia and AMD cards) have been guilty in the past of not properly re-designing the Nvidia version of the cooler for AMD cards, but that seems unlikely to be the issue here doesn't it?

I don't wanna pay £700 for a liquid cooled version (that seems to have a fairly high chance of being faulty) but also don't want to get a reference blower version as the wooshing sound has just started to fade from my ears from the reference 290X I was using...
I was hoping the 3rd party coolers would fit the bill.
 
Massive fail, even JayzTwoCents said it was worse than the ref, it couldn't get past about 1553MHz, and any overclocking killed it, ref blower was hitting about 1700, lmfao!.

No wonder the other AIBs are just not bothering with em, and just sticking with Polaris.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
I can't understand how a custom cooled card can be worse than an AMD reference blower.
Surely, other than the BIOS default settings, the cooler is the only thing different on the liquid cooled version?
So if the 3rd party coolers can cool somewhere between the reference blower and the liquid cooler the card should perform somewhere between the reference blower and liquid cooled cards?
We know the Strix isn't a bad cooler as we've seen it on a number of other cards doing a good job. I know Asus (and other manufacturers that do Nvidia and AMD cards) have been guilty in the past of not properly re-designing the Nvidia version of the cooler for AMD cards, but that seems unlikely to be the issue here doesn't it?

I don't wanna pay £700 for a liquid cooled version (that seems to have a fairly high chance of being faulty) but also don't want to get a reference blower version as the wooshing sound has just started to fade from my ears from the reference 290X I was using...
I was hoping the 3rd party coolers would fit the bill.
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Well it would appear that AMD is keeping the better chips for its own cards and trying to palm off the duff chips on the AIB partners who are understandably either not having it or somewhere between a rock and a hard place like ASUS!

Either way it's too late now for Vega it really does stumble from bad to worse.
 
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