Poll: The Vega Review Thread.

Martini1991 · 13 Oct 2017 at 10:48

Bonjour said:
Vega64 needs to be ~£450 and Vega56 ~£350. Unfortunately, I suspect AMD would be making a considerable loss at such prices.

Why did they get into this situation? Surely it'd be better to just sell more 580s lol.
Is the vega line up meant to be expanding? At the moment they've got a huge gulf in 580 to v56 in terms of product offerings

DragonQ · 13 Oct 2017 at 12:11

Maybe the Vega chips weren't supposed to be quite so expensive to produce, so they thought they would have Vega 56 at £350, which isn't too far from the RX 580 at sane prices. Regardless, it didn't turn out that way.

Martini1991 · 13 Oct 2017 at 12:13

DragonQ said:
Maybe the Vega chips weren't supposed to be quite so expensive to produce, so they thought they would have Vega 56 at £350, which isn't too far from the RX 580 at sane prices. Regardless, it didn't turn out that way.

The 580s are stupidly priced too tbh. The 480 at one point was like 160 for 4gb and 180 for 8gb. We ended up with a rebrand that costs loads more. I get that the. 1060 isn't exactly a cracking price either. This is the most pathetic I've seen the gpu market.

ubersonic · 13 Oct 2017 at 12:41

Martini1991 said:
The 580s are stupidly priced too tbh. The 480 at one point was like 160 for 4gb and 180 for 8gb. We ended up with a rebrand that costs loads more.

They cost the same before the high demand resulted in gouging and silly prices.

DragonQ · 13 Oct 2017 at 12:53

Martini1991 said:
The 580s are stupidly priced too tbh. The 480 at one point was like 160 for 4gb and 180 for 8gb.

If you're talking about reference cards then yeah those prices did briefly appear.

Martini1991 said:
We ended up with a rebrand that costs loads more. I get that the. 1060 isn't exactly a cracking price either. This is the most pathetic I've seen the gpu market.

Agreed, it's bad.

ubersonic said:
They cost the same before the high demand resulted in gouging and silly prices.

Are you sure? From what I remember the mining craze took off at almost the same time as the rebranded cards came out so there were never any RX 580s at "normal" prices.

Martini1991 · 13 Oct 2017 at 12:58

ubersonic said:
They cost the same before the high demand resulted in gouging and silly prices.

Which wasn't good enough already as they replaced the 480's but came in at higher price points.

Martini1991 · 13 Oct 2017 at 12:59

DragonQ said:
If you're talking about reference cards then yeah those prices did briefly appear.

They were AIB's. There was tons of times I considered switching out my ref 290X for one.
The Asus dual fan OC 8GB's were about 180.

Martini1991 · 13 Oct 2017 at 13:01

The cheapest 580 ; https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-194-gi.html

Wow, the exact same price/performance and VRAM as what I paid for my 290X 3 years ago. I've never seen it this bad before.

DragonQ · 13 Oct 2017 at 13:19

Martini1991 said:
They were AIB's. There was tons of times I considered switching out my ref 290X for one.
The Asus dual fan OC 8GB's were about 180.

Oh really? Well that is probably the worst custom card but still better than reference so fair enough.

Martini1991 · 13 Oct 2017 at 13:21

DragonQ said:
Oh really? Well that is probably the worst custom card but still better than reference so fair enough.

I imagine they all sound better than a reference 290x.
It's actually unbearable now. I've actually stopped playing story driven games because it's detracting from the experience.

DragonQ · 13 Oct 2017 at 14:34

Martini1991 said:
I imagine they all sound better than a reference 290x.
It's actually unbearable now. I've actually stopped playing story driven games because it's detracting from the experience.

Headphones?

Nemesis.ie · 13 Oct 2017 at 14:37

Earplugs, obviously!

Martini1991 · 13 Oct 2017 at 14:37

DragonQ said:
Headphones?

I prefer speakers.
But even with headphones it's not the best. I have pc360's so I do get background noise.

I'm almost at the point of going 1080 AIB but not yet.

DragonQ · 13 Oct 2017 at 15:03

Martini1991 said:
I prefer speakers.
But even with headphones it's not the best. I have pc360's so I do get background noise.

I'm almost at the point of going 1080 AIB but not yet.

I never even set up my PC speakers after I moved 18 months ago. I just use headphones all the time, partly because otherwise my girlfriend and I can't game at the same time, but also I just rarely need to use speakers and I'm happy with headphones anyway. If I want to watch TV or films or listen to music using speakers I have my HTPC setup downstairs.

I'm really happy wth my GPU, even if it doesn't have as much grunt as the GTX 1070 or Vega 56 it's inaudible over my standard case and CPU fan setup, and I get over 60 FPS with near-max settings in the RPGs I play, and over 100 FPS with near-max settings in FPSs I play (all at 1440p). That's enough for me hopefully for a couple of years, and I wouldn't swap the silence for a ~20 FPS bump across the board but that's just me.

melmac · 13 Oct 2017 at 15:12

Martini1991 said:
I imagine they all sound better than a reference 290x.
It's actually unbearable now. I've actually stopped playing story driven games because it's detracting from the experience.

Just get a Gelid icy cooler. simple to fit and keeps the card quiet and cool. I mean it's time to stop moaning about it. Fix it or get another card.

Martini1991 · 13 Oct 2017 at 15:17

DragonQ said:
I never even set up my PC speakers after I moved 18 months ago. I just use headphones all the time, partly because otherwise my girlfriend and I can't game at the same time, but also I just rarely need to use speakers and I'm happy with headphones anyway. If I want to watch TV or films or listen to music using speakers I have my HTPC setup downstairs.

I'm really happy wth my GPU, even if it doesn't have as much grunt as the GTX 1070 or Vega 56 it's inaudible over my standard case and CPU fan setup, and I get over 60 FPS with near-max settings in the RPGs I play, and over 100 FPS with near-max settings in FPSs I play (all at 1440p). That's enough for me hopefully for a couple of years, and I wouldn't swap the silence for a ~20 FPS bump across the board but that's just me.

I've got a 2560x1080 144hz so I want as many frames as possible. I'd get more frames and silence from an AIB 1080. Hell an AIB 56 would suffice

Martini1991 · 13 Oct 2017 at 15:19

melmac said:
Just get a Gelid icy cooler. simple to fit and keeps the card quiet and cool. I mean it's time to stop moaning about it. Fix it or get another card.

It's not worth fixing it, it doesn't offer enough frames anymore. And you tell me where I can buy an AIB Vega. There's nothing for me to buy, I could buy reference vega but I'm not prepared to pay the ridiculous price tag.

Or I lose the freesync I bought my monitor for and get an AIB 1080. Which is a compromise ultimately.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 13 Oct 2017 at 15:48

Martini1991 said:
Why did they get into this situation? Surely it'd be better to just sell more 580s lol.
Is the vega line up meant to be expanding? At the moment they've got a huge gulf in 580 to v56 in terms of product offerings

Is there another Vega SKU being launched though??

Martini1991 · 13 Oct 2017 at 16:01

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Is there another Vega SKU being launched though??

Vega 56 is probably minimum level performance I'd want to buy.

AMD could do with a fury x performance part.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 13 Oct 2017 at 16:04

Martini1991 said:
Vega 56 is probably minimum level performance I'd want to buy.

AMD could do with a fury x performance part.

I thought there was noise of a Vega part replacing Polaris,so if that has improved performance it would probably bridge that gap.

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