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Bingo. They’ve deviated too far from the source material and don’t seem to care.
The Witcher series (Netflix)
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Bingo. They’ve deviated too far from the source material and don’t seem to care.
I can't see it "surviving" S4 with Hemsworth as the lead, irrespective of how good/bad he is as actor, because once Cavill goes I'm guessing the last few fans still holding out hope that he might be able to turn things around will also leave with him, and without those there just doesn't seem to be an audience for what this Witcher series has sadly become.
Personally I wonder just how annoyed Cavill is with the showrunners now, who seem to have bait & switched what the series was supposed to be, compared to Cavill's genuine excitement when he got to bring this character to the screen?
In fact I'd just seen this pop-up as a news story when I looked at Witcher news. It's part of an interview with Beau DeMayo who wrote for and co-produced some of The Witcher -
www.ign.com
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Personally I wonder just how annoyed Cavill is with the showrunners now, who seem to have bait & switched what the series was supposed to be, compared to Cavill's genuine excitement when he got to bring this character to the screen?
In fact I'd just seen this pop-up as a news story when I looked at Witcher news. It's part of an interview with Beau DeMayo who wrote for and co-produced some of The Witcher -
Netflix's The Witcher: Former Producer Claims Some Writers 'Actively Disliked the Books and Games' - IGN
Beau DeMayo, a former producer and writer on The Witcher, has claimed that some writers on the Netflix series "actively disliked" Andrzej Sapkowski's books and CD Projekt Red's games.
Netflix's The Witcher writers didn't like the books or games
"It's a recipe for disaster."
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I can't see it "surviving" S4 with Hemsworth as the lead, irrespective of how good/bad he is as actor, because once Cavill goes I'm guessing the last few fans still holding out hope that he might be able to turn things around will also leave with him, and without those there just doesn't seem to be an audience for what this Witcher series has sadly become.
Personally I wonder just how annoyed Cavill is with the showrunners now, who seem to have bait & switched what the series was supposed to be, compared to Cavill's genuine excitement when he got to bring this character to the screen?
In fact I'd just seen this pop-up as a news story when I looked at Witcher news. It's part of an interview with Beau DeMayo who wrote for and co-produced some of The Witcher -
Netflix's The Witcher: Former Producer Claims Some Writers 'Actively Disliked the Books and Games' - IGN
Beau DeMayo, a former producer and writer on The Witcher, has claimed that some writers on the Netflix series "actively disliked" Andrzej Sapkowski's books and CD Projekt Red's games.
Netflix's The Witcher writers didn't like the books or games
"It's a recipe for disaster."
My god, this last line should be written in ten foot high letters on the outside of every Marvel, Disney, Warner Bros, Lucasfilm, Amazon, DC, BBC, etc, building. Every new addition to an existing IP that has not followed this rule has failed. They think fans are a built in customer base who will buy their stuff regardless of content, but fans are an army of vocal critics who will smash what you've made if you **** up the thing they love. This is a lesson not yet learned by Hollywood because they are all activists who hate the fans and what they love. Such people should be barred from working on these IPs.
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honestly after season 2 it was dead already - like said above, what is the point of changing the source material into something worse? Who is that actually for?
These established franchises have a big problem with getting quality writers.
These established franchises have a big problem with getting quality writers.
The problem is, they seem to read the source material and instead of understanding that some aspects of it wouldn't fly in modern society or that it had its failing, they ignore everything else and focus on that aspect in order to "fix it". They don't try to work out what people loved about the source material. They don't try to faithfully bring the media to life in another format.
When they ignore the source material and also start race and gender swapping characters, shoehorning modern tropes and issues into it in a hamfisted way they can't be too shocked when the OG fans think its crap. They can hide behind their politics though and have all the other believers pat them on the back as they shake their heads at all the bigots in the world who didn't clap like seals at their low quality bastardisation of brilliant art.
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I never understood this. I was listening to the audiobooks and the source material at times is absolutely brilliant and yet it gets butchered for the TV series, why do this? Nothing is improved doing this.
I get you have to change the pacing to fit the format, but to outright rewrite parts of the story?
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its weird isn't it - you already HAVE the story. Thats the most difficult part - but get some hack writers and they seem to think they can do better i guess, despite having little to no quality experience behind them.
The way they butchered my man Vesemir in S2 did that for me.
Was bad enough he was becoming a side Character in the show as I was just kinda hanging on for some of the epic moments he had.
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Probably because the good writers don't tick the right check boxes on the diversity quotas.
I just wish they would make their own new IPs if they don't want to adapt the source material. If the old stuff is "problematic" or needs "reimagining for today's world", then leave it alone and make new franchises. Why would you even want to work on something you hate, and do it so badly it just shows the world how untalented you are?
It's funny how they never seem to be creative enough to do their own original thing, it's always taking a loved IP and screwing it up so everyone hates it and it quickly dies into early cancellation.
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I came in here thinking i was going to give an unpopular opinion because I haven't been in this thread for a while. But it turns out everyone here feels the same way. Here are my points.
1. My opinion of the casting of Triss hasn't changed. It was just as bad as I imagined, and it's not just because she wasn't white, it's because they deliberately limited themselves to be 'inclusive' and 'diverse' they limited the talent pool and picked a terrible actress. I had to laugh that in season 2 they made her hair redder and her skin lightened to fit in better with the books/games, almost as if they realized they made a mistake. But they couldn't face replacing the actress because of there tiny woke minds. (It was be quite easy to do as well, she's a witch, just say her real face got burnt and she's using illusion magic to change her appearance)
2. I gave season 1 a pass because i knew the source books were just a loose bunch of stories and thought/hoped that season 2 was less messy and more coherent. Yes, it was less messy but i realized that by the end of the season it was just straight up dull.
3. And because of this, Cavill is wasted on this show, if i had to choose between 2 roles for him, i would absolutely have him back as Superman rather than him continuing in this second-rate show.
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I see this posted a lot but the sad truth is I don't think "they" can make their own IP's for two reasons. Firstly there doesn't seem to be the talent pool available within the creators/writer/showrunners for the studios to pick from to make something new and then secondly there doesn't appear to be any desire within the studio system to risk their financials on an untested new IP as it's easier to buy an IP with an existing fanbase and then thrown your untalented staff at it to make it work.
So when you combine those two you end up with these modern "re-imaginings", which are slowly killing off every established IP and with their large built-in fan base ready to be harangued by non-fans for not liking the low quality efforts being made with something they love.