History is history, so you want history segregated as well as being rewritten.
The Woman King (2022)
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History is history, so you want history segregated as well as being rewritten.
Soldato
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Its a freaking film.
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When are they remaking the Oscar winning Braveheart? That's about as historically accurate as this movie.
That's meant to be based on real events, that's how they advertised the film. If they want to make a fantasy / alternate reality film, then just do that, and nobody would care!!
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That's meant to be based on real events, that's how they advertised the film. If they want to make a fantasy / alternate reality film, then just do that, and nobody would care!!
Im fairly sure you still would.
She did a documentary (channel 4 I think) about the warrior Women of the region, it was in that she found out about the actual history of Dahomey and then pulled out upon learning the 'truth'. The documentary itself is actually pretty good.
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I agree - it's just a film......................... that heavily advertised itself as "based on a true story" when instead it has done much to hide what the "truth" actually was -
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We know Hollyweird likes to mess with history, and most of the time the changes, even if drastic, still make it clear who is the good guy and the bad guy, but this instead wants to make (as a deliberate choice) heroes out of Slave Traders. Now, usually I wouldn't care about this, being a film, but what we've been told and as the riots in Bristol and London etc have shown, is that Slave Traders irrespective of reasoning, are the BAD GUYS yet this film wants to make them the good guys. So, like a good little boy I'll follow what the riots have taught me and decide that all slave traders, irrespective of reason, are bad and therefore I will protest this film and anyone who likes this film is a racist bigot who loves slavery, because thats what we've been told to think
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Based on.
so exceptional that a handful of French slaughtered them at a rate of 1:125 when the Dahomey attacked...
Caporegime
Why didn't they just make it original.
Pretending is based on real events, when in reality they seemed to be a bunch of cannabis that were fully invested in the slave trade....
Weird choice. I think they missed an opportunity tbh.
I don't think I'm too bothered about seeing it until it comes to streaming.
Pretending is based on real events, when in reality they seemed to be a bunch of cannabis that were fully invested in the slave trade....
Weird choice. I think they missed an opportunity tbh.
I don't think I'm too bothered about seeing it until it comes to streaming.
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Soldato
What's a bunch of cannabis? Something else on your mind?
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There's about 1000 movies "based on real events" or "inspired by real events" that are total ********, so I'm not sure why this movie is being single out.
Actually I am sure, that's blatantly obvious.
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Lol brilliant
Caporegime
Because it's new? Because we are discussing this film? Start a thread on films that claim historical accuracy but are actually the opposite, i guess if you waNna discuss them. What's your favourite "historical" film.
Mines pearl harbor, Michael bay edition. I'm laughing thinking about it lol.
I just googled some and brave heart is right up there. Good film though.
300 too. Lol did that claim to be historically accurate? Other than Persia, Sparta, themopylae, everyone died.
That was one hell of a groundbreaking film after sin city. Beautiful. Stylish. Wasn't anything close to it.
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IMDb's blurb on the film talks about them, their tribe, having slaves, profiting from sale and slaves which they sacrifice.... So I guess the world was just a different place back then....
I guess slavery/African slave trade is a always a touchy subject. Tackling it in this scenario seems a very challenging job. Be interesting to see that aspect i guess.
I guess slavery/African slave trade is a always a touchy subject. Tackling it in this scenario seems a very challenging job. Be interesting to see that aspect i guess.
yes, it's the thread for the movie.. If you want to laugh at other films that claim to be historical epics then go make a thread about them and we'll join you.
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Lol at vincenthanna and tony being predictable as always. Tony is his usual self but my God, vincent you're actually getting worse.
because it's new and this is the movies section of the forum. Start engaging your brain man!
because it's new and this is the movies section of the forum. Start engaging your brain man!
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I was the one who kick-started the thread again! Nobody was that bothered.
Suddenly you all want to discuss how it's not factual.
Suddenly you all want to discuss how it's not factual.
Soldato
And as usual, you attempt to wave away any criticism when it comes to anything featuring 'strong women' or non-white people - often by playing a subtle or not so subtle 'you're just racist/misogynistic' card. See below for yet another example.
It being far from factual was being discussed from the 3rd post in. There's nothing sudden about it.
Anyway, the problem isn't a simple case of it not being strictly historically accurate and you know it. You just choose to conveniently ignore the specifics and make it a simple case of "oh, well other movies aren't accurate" and leave it at that.
Soldato
I would suggest that the talk isn't so much about it being "non factual", as films have always twisted history, but more changing the facts so that people who we all acknowledge as "The Bad Guys" have had their history changed to make them into the "The Good Guys" and film then wants us to support "The Bad Guys who have now been changed into Good Guys". I would say that makes the difference between this and virtually every other "based on true events which have been twisted to make a film" movie where the bad guys remain the bad guys.
We had the fictional story of the Dora Milaje in Black Panther, who were based on Agojie, and no-one complained about them to this extent, because the story was fictional so most people seem to be OK with strong black women fighters which is why I'm very surprised that Maria Bello, the white middle aged female writer of this film who was the driving force behind getting it made, after seeing the positive response the Dora Milaje had already got, was willing to leave behind her liberal/progressive mind-set in a deliberate effort to tell the story of these slave traders by making them into "The Good Guys".
I do wonder if, although unlikely, the project hadn't been so heavily pushed as "Based on True Events" etc and had instead started with "A fictionalised account based around True Events." (kind of like the 300 movie did vs the 300 reality - I know the movie was based on the graphic novel) that the reception might have been better, but I really do struggle with the studio's understanding of making bad people into good people to sell your movie, how was that ever going to be a good idea?
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