Poll: The Youtube/Twitch Generation?

Have you ever/Do you contribute to a Youtuber/Streamer?

  • Yes, Reguarly

    Votes: 13 7.7%
  • Yes, Infrequently

    Votes: 14 8.3%
  • Yes, Once

    Votes: 15 8.9%
  • Not Yet

    Votes: 32 18.9%
  • Never Will

    Votes: 66 39.1%
  • Get a proper job, Pancake!

    Votes: 29 17.2%

  • Total voters
    169
well its just the most upto date media to watch view listen to.plus most tv is garbage now.

mobiles have played a massive deal in how youtube/twitch streaming has gone.

what many dont realize is how much effort is often put in for the dedciated streamers youtubers.it can be more effect than a job more time.yet people only often look at the video.the time in length and not realize the whole package effort and time put into getting that product viewed.

i personally make videos sometimes daily for the fun of it.or getting to try new games.
 
Ok I'll add to this, from Both Sides but mainly for Twitch

Ok the Viewer Side

1 I do sub to a couple of streamers, but I am very select as to who they are. There people who I personally know and have also helped me a lot as well.

2 If I can, and again based on the above I have dropped a few quid to them, or got them something from the games gift shop / Steam.

3 I never feel pressured to do the above, on the basis that there are other ways to help streamer's - Host's etc

Generally, If I know them, like them and have spoke with them before I'll help them if they ask for a decent reason or I have soem spare money - a lot of the streamers I know are small streamers like myself with sub 1000 followers and very rarely ask for anything.

I won't actively support someone who has what is termed a begger bar right from the word go (A begger Bar is basically when you see they have a goal for fund's and have maybe 100 followers at most - They are in this for the wrong reason)

From the Streamer Side

Firstly the last comment on the pole I find harsh and unfair - Though I will balance that by saying I understand why people think that, especially with the number of people new to streaming with the begger bar on display as stated above.

1 - The vast majoriy of streamers are unpartnered - so they don't get the sub button from twitch. So if they want to earn money from it, they either have to be very very good / ESL Pro level to get viewers and support from people / companies or they need to offer other methods.

2 - Sub's v Follower - The quote above regarding having 12000 sub's - if thats a number you see next to there name then thats not true - they will have maybe 12000 followers, and a % of those will be sub's, unless that streamer choose's to disclose the number of sub's they have through Twitch. A streamer I know as 25k followers, but only 600 subscribers to his channel. 500 Sub's is the level normally at which a streamer can think about going full time as it is roughly the same as about a 20k wage a year. But this does move a lot, as not everyone carries on there sub, some people sub for just a few months and stop.

3 - 'Its not a real Job' - Speaking as a streamer who also has a full time Job, I put more time into streaming then I have ever done in any other Job I have had - Inc retail sales. You are basically the Broadcaster, All the Production crew roles and the Technical crew in one. You will spend maybe 2-4 months tweaking your software settings to get your stream right, and then the rest of the time's you stream making small changes to balance your stream. When your streaming you ahve all the interaction with the people watching, keeping aeye on chat, thanking people who host, follow, sub, answering viewers questions, taking viewer request's to see any new content you may have.
Off stream, you'll be liasing with Game Developers / Community Managers, providing feedback to them from your audience's, getting updates on new product's coming down the line.
If you get noticed even wider, then you will also be dealing with PR rep's for other comapnies who want you to promote them or affilate themselves with you. This in it's self is a huge minefield, who do you pick, what fits with your channel and viewers etc.

4. Not all streamer's are in it for a paycheck and to go full time. Some are they for that and that alone - and you can easily tell who they are. Some have got that way, because they are the most well know in there choosen Game, and as stated above have built there life on it.
Those that go full time because they have grown large enough and stable enough to support themselves, normally do so in the knowladge that a streamers carrer is very much linked to the game's life span that they stream.

I hope the above makes sense, but I'll happily field questions and answer were I can.
 
First of all I really enjoy watching YouTube videos and watching some Twitch streamers but I've never yet paid any of them out of my own pocket. In the future when I have a bit more money I may consider donating some money to my favourite streamers as they entertain me for free basically and sometimes I want to give something back to the community.

I've recently (very recently) started streaming myself and it isn't as easy as it looks. You have to talk constantly while you are playing a game and you have to be interesting enough to get people to hang around. Of course it helps if you are playing the right game but it is really down to your personality I think.

I don't expect to make any money doing it but I will keep doing it regularly because I find it really enjoyable. Hopefully I'll be able to build up a little community of my own that I'll get to know. That is what I am really looking forward to. I do have a donation link in case anyway does decide to support me though because money is really tight for me. I think if someone donated £5 to me I'd be over the moon :D.

From the streaming perspective it can be really expensive. First of all you need a PC powerful enough to play the game and stream at the same time. This basically requires an i7 CPU which isn't cheap. Then you need good stable internet access with fast upload and you also need to have a headset and microphone. I've cheaped out on the microphone and currently use the one in my headset but I want to buy a dedicated microphone and getting that and all the accessories I need with it will cost me about £220 or so. So I wouldn't go into streaming thinking you are going to make money. If anything you are going to lose money because of all of the equipment you need. You also need a really good 1080p web cam as well which can easily cost more than £80 (unless you got it on sale like I did).

Then you need to spend the time learning how to use OBS Studio which to a new user can be really confusing. You also need to spend time reading about hints and tips for doing streaming so you know how you are going to do it. It is a very time consuming hobby but one that I am really enjoying.
 
The problem with both sites is that ultimately the people there from the beginning will ultimately take the lions share of any subscription. So it's nearly pointless starting a new channel without being a babe or rager, sure maybe after 5 years constant streaming you might have something, but... most stop bothering or have actual reality to face up to.

It's not really the consumers fault either, i like only a few streamers, sure i could go out of my way to find new ones, but generally i'm there for the chat experience as well and well there's a fine line between say the very top and 90% of streamers, where the chat is just spam/unreadable or 99% of the chat is lurking.

It really is first come, first served for social tech companies unfortunately.
 
The problem with both sites is that ultimately the people there from the beginning will ultimately take the lions share of any subscription. So it's nearly pointless starting a new channel without being a babe or rager, sure maybe after 5 years constant streaming you might have something, but... most stop bothering or have actual reality to face up to.

It's not really the consumers fault either, i like only a few streamers, sure i could go out of my way to find new ones, but generally i'm there for the chat experience as well and well there's a fine line between say the very top and 90% of streamers, where the chat is just spam/unreadable or 99% of the chat is lurking.

It really is first come, first served for social tech companies unfortunately.

True. Those that have been doing it for years have a massive advantage but I hope I'll be able to build up a small community of say 20 viewers over the next year or so. I think that is a realistic expectation for a very small streamer like myself.

The only problem I have at the moment is that my internet is rubbish. I am getting new internet installed on Thursday and hopefully that fixes all of my problems so I can continue to stream over the next year or so regularly.
 
I support Classic Game Room via Patreon.

The ball park maths for YouTube ad revenue is $1 per 1000 views.

You can use a site called Social blade to see what content creators earn from their channels.
 
I totally get what you mean, I'm in a full time job, a student and a dad to 2 little girlies too. I like to stream when I play, however I find it incredibly difficult to get views. I have all my stream setup etc but it just doesn't happen for me. Doesn't bother me really I just enjoy doing it and uploading to YouTube. I honestly someone would donate there hard earned cash to charity than myself
 
I do watch a lot of Twitch but I actively go out of my way to find those people with a handful of viewers, 10 or less. You'd have to pay me before I'd watch some of the big ones like this Ninja Fortnite guy. And watching games is now getting a bit boring - a lot of people are streaming games I haven't played yet so I'll never choose one of those channels. I prefer checking out the IRL section and watching some random guy feeding his pigs or something. :D
 
I'm a lot more selective about who I watch these days. Can't be doing doing with these guys, like MKiceandfire that rush through a game as quick as they can to get the vids out. Or people like theradbrad who talk too much and miss hints and other things and wonders why he gets stuck. I much prefer the guy that takes his time, does a bit of exploring and actually enjoys the game he is playing, regardless of whether or not he is making money.
 
Only guy that I watch regularly is Cohh, his tastes are very similar to mine, so its useful for 'scouting' out games and tbh I actually like the guy as a person.

I'd never pay money to subscribe to a twitcher, but having an Amazon Prime account actually does give you 1 twitch subscription for free, which I use on Cohh.
 
Most I 'spend' on Twitch is giving someone my Prime sub once a month. Can't understand how people give £1000's away to streamers.
 
I subscribe (non-prime) to DrDisrespect, and regularly donate. Not much but $5 here and there. Way I see it, he provides me hours on entertainment every week so it's the least I can do. I pay a lot more to companies that provide far less entertainment.

I've bought merch of his too as I like the designs more than anything. And I like supporting people, I'd happily subscribe to a couple of streamers off OcUK as well as I enjoy watching them. Jarakin (in fact I think he is taking subs now) and grimlock are good to watch and I love watching past streams while I WFH as it's great background noise
 
I subscribe (non-prime) to DrDisrespect, and regularly donate. Not much but $5 here and there. Way I see it, he provides me hours on entertainment every week so it's the least I can do. I pay a lot more to companies that provide far less entertainment.

I've bought merch of his too as I like the designs more than anything. And I like supporting people, I'd happily subscribe to a couple of streamers off OcUK as well as I enjoy watching them. Jarakin (in fact I think he is taking subs now) and grimlock are good to watch and I love watching past streams while I WFH as it's great background noise

Same. I give him my prime sub each month, plus a donation here and there. He's the most entertaining streamer by far.
 
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I get supporting smaller streamers, especially people that may have just started out and are trying to make it a full time job. I can't understand the guys that support the massive streamers though. Like the doc and Shroud, they're at the point where they hardly even acknowledge a $50 donation these days. There's no point subbing to chat either as it moves so fast no one will ever see it.

Also the streamers that are already super rich, why these guys need donations is beyond me. Theres a guy called Cyanide on Twitch, his family are absolutely loaded and yet he's on Twitch getting donations and subs. He's just bought a Maclaren 720s and has an AMG as his daily lol. He used to use the money from Twitch for charity, then came up with some bull**** story about his family's lawyers have advised him not to do that.
 
Cyanide apparently made loads of money off Bitcoin using his own savings rather than trust fund, he used that to buy his car and uses his families money to build free schools etc. in India. Not a follower or anything but recently stumbled across some drama and a statement when watching a SovietWomble video. It's also good to remember that people don't HAVE to sub or donate, if they still do knowing that the person is rich then that's up to them, they obviously feel they've got enough enjoyment from it to make it worthwhile.

I mainly just use my Prime sub now but have previously subbed to one or two channels. I often have twitch on in the background while doing something else and if you find the right channels they can be entertaining. Considering you pay £15-20 to go to a movie these days, a $5 sub to help support someone who has given you many hours of content isn't a stretch.
 
I'm a lot more selective about who I watch these days. Can't be doing doing with these guys, like MKiceandfire that rush through a game as quick as they can to get the vids out. Or people like theradbrad who talk too much and miss hints and other things and wonders why he gets stuck. I much prefer the guy that takes his time, does a bit of exploring and actually enjoys the game he is playing, regardless of whether or not he is making money.

Geez, he is quite annoying because you can see he rushes game videos for the views.
 
Centerstrain01 is pretty good with his playthroughs. You can see he really gets into the games rather than doing it for the sake of it.


While it's partially true, I've seen it mixed the other way. I've seen many streamers invite their chat into the game party for 2v2 or 4v4 games and shuffling their viewers for games.

Most people seem to think twitch is just boring watching streamers. It has become quite the great community for streamers, their viewers as well as the experience. There has been many fun times.

One example. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/276416262

Even Onscreen does it with his viewers.
 
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