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Here's the cps. The people that deal with the law. Not guidelines. Law.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/driving-offences
"unnecessarily slow driving"
I also suggest you look at rule 144 if you're set on the highway code.
Driving at less than the speed limit isn't "unnecessarily slow driving" (careless driving). Nor is it driving dangerously, driving without due care and attention or driving without reasonable consideration for other road users (rule 144).
Careless driving is where the motorist's driving falls below what would be expected of a competent and careful driver.
No one is going to get prosecuted for driving at 25 in a 30 or 35 in a 40. You couldn't legally argue those speeds weren't those of a "competent and careful driver".
Genuinely, do you have vision problems? I've already clearly stated, and the OP clearly stated nobody is talking about 5mph under the limit.
The post you argued with and quoted did. I suggest you have mental problems.
Genuinely, do you have vision problems? I've already clearly stated, and the OP clearly stated nobody is talking about 5mph under the limit.
You stated the speed limit is a target which we should all be aiming for. It isn't.
Perhaps you have your own vision/understanding problems if you can't see/understand the post you quoted and the reply you typed.
Agreed, but when it's a perfectly straight road, the surface is good and visibility is good. Why are you doing 40 in a 60? And then when we enter a village and it goes down to 30mph, its 8am so there's loads of kids at the bus stop and you continue to just plough on at 40. Yeah that ****** me off. The "40 everywhere" people are the most annoying drivers in the world. They'll also tailgate the **** out of you for doing a 30 in a 30.
You stated the speed limit is a target which we should all be aiming for. It isn't.
Perhaps you have your own vision/understanding problems if you can't see/understand the post you quoted and the reply you typed.
The offence of driving without due care and attention (careless driving) under section 3 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 is committed when the defendant's driving falls below the standard expected of a competent and careful driver - section 3ZA(2) of the RTA 1988.
Some examples of careless or inconsiderate driving are:
- overtaking on the inside;
- driving too close to another vehicle;
- driving through a red light by mistake;
- turning into the path of another vehicle;
- the driver being avoidably distracted by tuning the radio, lighting a cigarette etc.
- flashing lights to force other drivers to give way;
- misusing lanes to gain advantage over other drivers;
- unnecessarily staying in an overtaking lane;
- unnecessarily slow driving or braking;
- dazzling other drivers with un-dipped headlights.
Is this the hill that you want any remaining credibility to die on?
Slow driving can be a prosecutable office. It has already been linked.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/driving-offences
Is this the hill that you want any remaining credibility to die on?
Slow driving can be a prosecutable office. It has already been linked.
It's why I can only conclude he has vision problems. He's made something up about driving 5mph under the limit and completely ignored what the CPS say.
Why get hung up on the specific numbers? I was giving you some rough examples of what someone is not going to be prosecuted for because there's no rule or law which says the speed limit is a target.
Because that's what we're talking about...why post something that's not what we're talking about? Did I bring melons or the planet Jupiter in to the conversation? They're about as relevant as your 5mph under the limit crap.
You stated "Actually it is a target" [the speed limit]. My posts were in response to your statement.
I'm not sure if you know what you're bringing to the conversation. You made a statement which I responded to and then accuse me of being "off topic" and my giving you some illustrative examples as "crap".
Perhaps you shouldn't make statements if you don't want to be challenged on them.
And as I, and another have pointed out, twice now, driving under the limit can see you prosecuted. There are laws in place to do this, hence why, as I stated you should drive as close to the limit as is safely possible. You aim for it. It's a target.
Your 5mph comments had, and still have no relevance to the point being discussed when the figures given were 40 in a 60. You don't aim to drive at 40mph no matter what.
Your initial comment wasn't addressed to driving at 40 in a 60. You quoted the "It’s a limit, not a target." post which was made before those numbers were mentioned.
It's an irrelevant point anyway. Your statement was to the effect that everyone is required to drive to the "target" of 60 in a 60 if conditions permit. Anything below 60 is not allowed.
The speed limit isn't a target, as I've pointed out. It's the maximum speed and no one is required to drive at that speed.
No. If that was the case I would have said you must drive at the limit. Not to it. I wouldn't have said it's a target, it would be an absolute. Words are important. Learn them.
I quoted the post after the numbers were stated...
Actually it is a target. You should drive at the maximum safe speed that the conditions allow. One of those conditions being the legal maximum of the road.
Driving needlessly slowly can see you charged under careless or inconsiderate driving.