thinking of giving up on pc gaming..issues inside thread

jorzeh · 18 Jul 2011 at 00:21

99.9% of all my games have run without a hitch, I've been PC gaming since my 33Mhz days, Although i didn't really enjoy it till i got my Voodoo 1 and P133 Lol, Back when life wasn't so simple as now.

Anyone else have a Amstrad CPC464 ? With dizzy and games for £2.99 that took about 40 mins to load, Epic, Btw my Xbox 360 and PS3 are both broken, Sods law.

opethdisciple · 18 Jul 2011 at 00:49

More than likely PEBKAC.

Honestly if Microsoft or AMD where so bad at coding, it would be impacting a huge minority of people, rather just isolated cases.

When you get bsod, its most liely unstable overclocks or less likely defective hardware.

opethdisciple · 18 Jul 2011 at 00:53

Phil2008 said:
Crossfire/dual card = hell
single card = heaven

Why cant ppl get this,,ARRRHHHH. I bought my 6950 a few months back and its been no trouble, same goes for my 3870 I had before the 6950. Sell both 6970s and get a GTX580, if you want to run everything maxed out without the probs. Or use 1 6970 and turn down settings a bit.

Yep, I made sure then I bought my last card (5870) I kissed good bye to sli/xfire for good.

Far too much hassle which I cant be bothered with.

spleenharvester · 18 Jul 2011 at 01:53

opethdisciple said:
More than likely PEBKAC.

Honestly if Microsoft or AMD where so bad at coding, it would be impacting a huge minority of people, rather just isolated cases.

When you get bsod, its most liely unstable overclocks or less likely defective hardware.

His has failed at POST, means it's hardwareside.

(unless that was directed at someone other than OP

)

phil128 · 18 Jul 2011 at 05:09

Goodbye.

Have fun playing on consoles running games at 30 FPS.

BigBANGtheory · 18 Jul 2011 at 09:42

What you should do is purchase a copy of the sim DCS-A10C then ask yourself if you really want to jump ship to consoles.

PC hardware can be a pain in the arse but ultimately it is the best gaming experience go find out many PC gamers also own a console so its no big deal.

Shayper · 18 Jul 2011 at 10:30

opethdisciple said:
More than likely PEBKAC.

Honestly if Microsoft or AMD where so bad at coding, it would be impacting a huge minority of people, rather just isolated cases.

When you get bsod, its most liely unstable overclocks or less likely defective hardware.

Sorry mate, but, frankly, saying that anyone with GPU driver issues has PEBKAC is laughable, and slightly insulting.

Crossfire, in a large number of cases, DOES NOT WORK. It didn't work for me, and it obviously certainly didn't work for Al4x, despite us both following instructions to the letter.

Your post is rather non-constructive. So please, don't get involved.

And then you say this:

opethdisciple said:
Yep, I made sure then I bought my last card (5870) I kissed good bye to sli/xfire for good.

Far too much hassle which I cant be bothered with.

Which completely counteracts your first statement?

Slight lack of consistency there...

Marvin · 18 Jul 2011 at 12:08

In all honesty though, it always seems to be the same people with CF/SLI issues. The kind who throw money at a problem, rather than researching for 5 minutes online. Sure, when a game is first released the lack of SLI/CF support can be annoying, but driver releases from both parties are frequent enough for it not to be a problem. I have run both SLI and CF, and have never had any issues with either beyond "the profile doesn't exist yet". If you're a here and now kind of person, clearly that's going to be an issue, but given the number of people who run >1200P screens, or multi-monitors, who then almost always use SLI/CF (and have to fiddle to get the best from the multi-monitors), and don't seem to have endless issues; it points to the user who can't be arsed to make it work properly.

Having said that, Al4x's issue appears more faulty-hardware/overclocked too far than driver issues.

opethdisciple · 18 Jul 2011 at 12:34

spleenharvester said:
His has failed at POST, means it's hardwareside.

(unless that was directed at someone other than OP )

In all fairness I think I was spot on.

I covered all the bases and was not trying to be rude.

Either his cpu overclock is not stable, or he has a hardware issues.

Both of which if you think it through could be caused by PEBKAC. (Hardware side, could still be PEBKAC)

Now I do admit that its a bit cruel to call PEBKAC if indeed it is not the op's fault, as these things do happen.

But sometimes crticism is constructive.

He should put everything to stock and see what happens.

I do hear lots of people saying that Afterburner can be problamatic??

Leeroy123 · 18 Jul 2011 at 13:02

Phil2008 said:
Crossfire/dual card = hell
single card = heaven

Why cant ppl get this,,ARRRHHHH. I bought my 6950 a few months back and its been no trouble, same goes for my 3870 I had before the 6950. Sell both 6970s and get a GTX580, if you want to run everything maxed out without the probs. Or use 1 6970 and turn down settings a bit.

Ive always used sli and never had a problem. So that comment just isnt true.

spleenharvester · 18 Jul 2011 at 15:29

opethdisciple said:
Either his cpu overclock is not stable, or he has a hardware issues.

Both of which if you think it through could be caused by PEBKAC. (Hardware side, could still be PEBKAC)

Unless he overheated it to the extreme or something equally stupid, I doubt it's PEBCAK. I reflow cards frequently and that just looks like a failure of the core's BGA package to me. He would have to be rediculously heavy handed to cause that.

413x · 18 Jul 2011 at 18:48

its not cpu based as that is at stock at the time,

what does the post colours issue usually signify? a faulty gfx card? have i just been unlucky with the single card i have, ie it wont OC at all? the game seems ok at non ultra settings, but even with no overclick crysis 2 fails at ultra, is one gfx card faulty under load in this case? also both monitors are connected to the same card but if the post is off coloured, its only ever the u2711 that looks odd

tommybhoy · 18 Jul 2011 at 19:27

'CatalystCreator Andrew D For Crysis 2 - make sure the PostMSAA setting is removed from the games autoexec.conf file - it's causing bad CF scaling'
http://twitter.com/#!/CatalystCreator

Gundog48 · 18 Jul 2011 at 20:12

We've all been there to be honest. You've got £1K worth of kit, it's not working and you don't know why, you've tried everything you can think of and you just want to play. It is the most horrible feeling when you can't get your PC to work, especially if you are like me and you know exactly how a PC works pretty much inside out or it is worth a lot. Fact is, you've just got to get a grip on yourself and the situation. Calm down, and go through it logically, find the component at fault then RMA it. That's the beauty of PCs, if there's something wrong, you just find what it is and get that part replaced. With a console, your warranty only lasts a couple of years and user servicing is virtually impossible. Whenever I ever consider going console I just remember what many of my friends have told me when I question the reliability of consoles:

I've been on xBox for 4/5 years and have only ever had 1 die on me!

I think that says it all. Have no illusions, getting PCs to work the way you want is no walk in the park. However, just have a calm, collected, calculated approach and sort it out- you will come off a lot better for it! Good luck!

Jericho.u.k · 18 Jul 2011 at 20:44

Leeroy123 said:
Ive always used sli and never had a problem. So that comment just isnt true.

Unfortunatley Phill2008 is always defending single card setups and dismissing sli/xfire setups just because he has had problems in the past and as such he has no real knowledge of how good they are nowdays.

Check the link for proof

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18288649

spleenharvester · 18 Jul 2011 at 21:01

al4x said:
its not cpu based as that is at stock at the time,

what does the post colours issue usually signify? a faulty gfx card? have i just been unlucky with the single card i have, ie it wont OC at all? the game seems ok at non ultra settings, but even with no overclick crysis 2 fails at ultra, is one gfx card faulty under load in this case? also both monitors are connected to the same card but if the post is off coloured, its only ever the u2711 that looks odd

Yup. Or some weird jiggery pokery with crossfire going on, which I doubt since it deffo looks like a faulty core to me, but I have no experience with crossfire so wouldn't know if it was. Try card on its own if you can.

It's possible one port is on its way out, my 9800GT has only one port which works properly. I doubt it's the monitor.

413x · 18 Jul 2011 at 21:46

Its never been over clocked beyond a little, and only 50 more on the volts which I believe is less than the over volt in ccc

I can try a card on its own, whats the best way to test this, a benchmark? I'm 99% sure its not the monitor as its at certain system points, ie only post,

But after this I think I will keep to one card, just cause of personal experience

I guess I'm more disappointed than angry

tommybhoy · 18 Jul 2011 at 23:13

al4x said:
I can try a card on its own, whats the best way to test this, a benchmark?

Take off the xfire peg, flick both the bios switches to the backup (stock 6950) and reinstall the ati driver. Try heaven and if all is well then try putting the xfire peg back on and try xfire again. As you said 1 card doesn't oc, then maybe it doesn't like the shader flash as well which may be the underlying cause of your problems. If you have no problem running heaven in xfire then stock 6950 xfire is better than a single 6950>70.

Marvin · 18 Jul 2011 at 23:30

al4x said:
Its never been over clocked beyond a little, and only 50 more on the volts which I believe is less than the over volt in ccc

I can try a card on its own, whats the best way to test this, a benchmark? I'm 99% sure its not the monitor as its at certain system points, ie only post,

But after this I think I will keep to one card, just cause of personal experience

I guess I'm more disappointed than angry

If it's Crysis 2 giving the problems, try each card separately on the settings that fail (even if it's a slideshow), and with some luck you'll have your answer.

bridder · 19 Jul 2011 at 07:51

al4x said:
its not cpu based as that is at stock at the time,

what does the post colours issue usually signify? a faulty gfx card? have i just been unlucky with the single card i have, ie it wont OC at all? the game seems ok at non ultra settings, but even with no overclick crysis 2 fails at ultra, is one gfx card faulty under load in this case? also both monitors are connected to the same card but if the post is off coloured, its only ever the u2711 that looks odd

The light blue u2711 issue must be either the gfx card, the cable or the monitor as the post screen displays it, the driver isn't even loaded at that point so surely that must be a hardware problem...

I suppose you just need to try swapping out different things till you find the offending hardware, hope you get it sorted,

J.