third party Am4 coolers

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hey, are third party AM4 coolers fitted the same way as the AMD OEM ones?
for example the scythe cooler was just a screw on affair, but the spire had a god-awful hook over latch thing that was a pain to install, I ask because my son has an AM4 system that we are either going to overclock, the 1600x that it already has or get one of the am4 3dx cpus to go in there
I like to try overclocking it first, then both save a little while to try a beefy gpu with it at max overclock, but it is already a toasty cpu with the scythe on there,
I'd rather let him change the cooler under my supervision, so I'd prerfer a screw on one to make life easy on him, it will be his first cooler installation, and when I installed a spire on my oldAM system, I found it really frustrating,
thanks
 
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All the AM4 coolers i have used have been screw in type.

The only one that has been a bit awkward is the Liquid Freezer III.

What cooler was you thinking of getting?

Here is a example video, think all of these kind use the original motherboard backplate.

 
They are installed to the backplate as standard you remove them to fit the screw type.
the rectangles on the top of the plate on the front face, the spire had a thin piece of metal that went through the cooler, that thin flat piece of metal has a cut out rectangle at one end that has to hook over one of the plates retangles, then there is a lever to tighten the whole thing up and put some pressure on the mating face, really annoying, his pc has the screw in scythe, so I'm hoping that it will be all ready for a replacement screw in aftermarket am4 cooler, as long as the cooler is designed to be screwed on, hence the question
 
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If you think the spire is bad
I remember in the old days
Was similar
But no lever to tighten it/apply mounting pressure
You used a screwdriver to push it down
Then over the retaining lugs
Very awkward if was a large cooler/heatsink
One slip of that screwdriver with all the downwards pressure
And very good chance of damaging the motherboard
 
I’d not bother oc’ing a first gen Ryzen 1600x - you’re not going to see much in the way of improvements for your efforts.
Exactly this, at best you'll gain a couple of hundred mhz, for a tiny performance increase.


Better to drop in either a 5700X3D or if money is really tight a 5600X. Both will deliver huge increases in Single Threaded and Multi Threaded Performance.
(5800X3D is also a good option, but the price is normally not attractive enough for a "dead end" chip vs AM5)


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Another vote for Thermalright coolers.

Which one depends a lot on how quiet you want system to be. Even a basic 4x 6mm heat pipe 120mm fan cooler will keep it cool, just not as quietly as a 5x, 6x, 7x 6mm heatpipe single tower or twin tower 120mm or 140mm fan/s cooler will. More heatpipes transfer more heat from base to fins and bigger fin packs / more fin packs transfer more heat to airflow at same fan speeds. This means bigger coolers with more heat pipes are almost always quieter. I say almost because cooler bases do not always mate to IHS as well, and the better they mate up means better heat transfer from CPU to cooler base. ;)

What motherboard, RAM and case are you using? .. and M2 ifusing one. I ask because they can all effect what coolers will fit.
 
All the AM4 coolers i have used have been screw in type.

The only one that has been a bit awkward is the Liquid Freezer III.

What cooler was you thinking of getting?

Here is a example video, think all of these kind use the original motherboard backplate.

Thanks a lot freddie, this fills me with hope,
I don't know what cooler yet
all that I really want is for it to be easy for my son, so he gets a cean experience with changing a cooler, I've seen him do everything now, except drop a motherboard into a case, drop a cpu into a socket, or attempt to clean up cables, he's not the neatest of people, but he can do a screw up/out,
so, some time soon, I''l get him a new cpu and cooler for him to learn with. I'm wondering how cool the5700x3d is now, maybe we could reuse the wraith stealth on it.
Anyway, cheers buddy, I appreciate you :)
 
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