Sorry to hear that.
I guess that famous, well once famous gaming company from the 16bit days is no longer any good for work?
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I guess that famous, well once famous gaming company from the 16bit days is no longer any good for work?
Cheers. Well, I'm not there anymore anyway, but it was a good place to work, some projects are just cursed!
European work culture is just so much better. Other half is working in higher education atm and it's just mental. So many people working themselves to death and bragging about it.
Ha! Sounds like my friend who works for Apple
Next year I be looking for a new role, current job is good but not enough Azure stuff for me and dealing with end users again......aaaarrrggghhhh!!!!
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Nice one, I'd be tempted to go back! Where abouts?
Malmö. I have worked there a fair bit in the past, was always somewhere I was interested in living in at some point.
Same, I'd love to go back
Sweden/Denmark/Norway are right up there on the list of places I'd move to, I have a lot of Swedish friends and the work culture sounds great. Similarly a friend works at a Danish company in London and says the environment is really laid back. Just need to convince my partner that learning a new language isn't that hard...
(not that it's even particularly necessary in Scandinavia).
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I was thinking of moving to Sweden after having a interview for a role in Stockholm. But I am glad I didn't get the role and move thereSweden/Denmark/Norway are right up there on the list of places I'd move to, I have a lot of Swedish friends and the work culture sounds great. Similarly a friend works at a Danish company in London and says the environment is really laid back. Just need to convince my partner that learning a new language isn't that hard...
Hong Kong was also on my list but the work life balance is bad I heard.
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Is it me, or is "ghosting" becoming way more common these days?
I've had like 2 or 3 decent emails from companies saying "We like your profile, etc etc" and have obviously looked at it, as they've referred to it in the communication.
I then email back with something along the lines of "Yes ok, lets setup a call and have a chat" or whatever, only to be completely blanked and never hear a damn thing back ever again
I'm not taking this personally, I just frankly find it weird...
I've had like 2 or 3 decent emails from companies saying "We like your profile, etc etc" and have obviously looked at it, as they've referred to it in the communication.
I then email back with something along the lines of "Yes ok, lets setup a call and have a chat" or whatever, only to be completely blanked and never hear a damn thing back ever again
I'm not taking this personally, I just frankly find it weird...
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I mean it *might* have been, but to be honest, I'm talking like - personal emails from hiring teams, and hiring managers,
There's lots of companies pulling head count, budgets getting cut, hiring getting frozen or internal politics at playIs it me, or is "ghosting" becoming way more common these days?
I've had like 2 or 3 decent emails from companies saying "We like your profile, etc etc" and have obviously looked at it, as they've referred to it in the communication.
I then email back with something along the lines of "Yes ok, lets setup a call and have a chat" or whatever, only to be completely blanked and never hear a damn thing back ever again
I'm not taking this personally, I just frankly find it weird...
Often the lower level manager can't reveal that sometimes as they don't want to spook the market and let it be known that x has frozen headcount until they announce it via proper channels.
Is it me, or is "ghosting" becoming way more common these days?
I've had like 2 or 3 decent emails from companies saying "We like your profile, etc etc" and have obviously looked at it, as they've referred to it in the communication.
I then email back with something along the lines of "Yes ok, lets setup a call and have a chat" or whatever, only to be completely blanked and never hear a damn thing back ever again
I'm not taking this personally, I just frankly find it weird...
I've never known a year like this both ways around recruitment wise - we've been hiring for about 15 positions - so many people ghost us after applying, loads turn up for induction and either just disappear midway through the day or never turn up the 2nd or 3rd day, lots who do say they aren't coming back between 1 day and a week in - we've a fairly relaxed, but structured, atmosphere and upped the pay and benefits this year so not like it is a bad places to work.
Operationally it has made it a bit of a nightmare - in the past maybe 10% of new starters have been like that, this year more like 60%.
Likewise those who have stuck around have complained they've been ghosted by many of the jobs they applied for - lots of companies seem to be suddenly slashing/pulling recruitment over the last few weeks due to trading concerns over cost of living outlook especially when Truss was PM though we've not seen a corresponding impact from it yet - the week just gone was our busiest of all time.
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We've had loads to people fail to reply after being offered a job, and/or fail to start at all levels.
I'd say thats partly (in our case) due to high requirements, limited promotions (its a smaller place) and average pay. If the candidate gets a late offer thats better, they don't hesitate to take the other offer.
I'd say people get ghosted (and/or shafted) by HR and companies so often, they just do likewise now.
I'd say thats partly (in our case) due to high requirements, limited promotions (its a smaller place) and average pay. If the candidate gets a late offer thats better, they don't hesitate to take the other offer.
I'd say people get ghosted (and/or shafted) by HR and companies so often, they just do likewise now.
That's insane. You're saying that OVER FIFTY PERCENT of new starters don't last more than a week!?!?
Something [literally] doesn't add up there. Either your induction process is abysmal, it's nowhere near as good a place to work as you think it is, these are temp jobs that people chop and change all the time, or it's some sort of benefits scam where people have to pretend to be in work. Yes there will be some people who applied for multiple jobs and they got an offer just after starting, but even so, that can't be sooo many.
I mean, how do people even know after a few hours what the job is truly like? I have a philosophy that you need to give a job six weeks to really get a feel for it, now maybe in more menial jobs that learning curve is a lot shorter, you basically know everything there is to know in the first week, but even so. Who the hell are these people? I mean I remember my first job after uni, crap job, day 3 I was contacted to go for an interview at a 'better' employer and I turned it down because I wanted to learn about the original place before making any hasty decisions (in hindsight I wish I'd interviewed at the other place but it didn't seem appropriate at the time).
We've had an influx of actual decent CVs recently - so much so that we've had to sift some out which is different.
That said I've been approached by an internal head-hunter for a lead role in a large UK company. Going to have a chat this week, I feel it's a bit of a reach for me, but the core skills/requirements I have already, just the experience at that level.
Be a good experience if nothing else
That said I've been approached by an internal head-hunter for a lead role in a large UK company. Going to have a chat this week, I feel it's a bit of a reach for me, but the core skills/requirements I have already, just the experience at that level.
Be a good experience if nothing else
Just read some of the posts above, anybody that gets a chance to go somewhere like Sweden, take it.
Yes it’s a massive thing and risk, but just look at the positives and how much better off you could be there both personally and professionally.
Yes it’s a massive thing and risk, but just look at the positives and how much better off you could be there both personally and professionally.
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I would jump at the chance to go to anywhere in Scandinavia at the moment.
In other news, Amazon reported to be laying off 10k soon. More crazy times to come.
The induction/onboarding process is not in an ideal place right now to be honest which is probably exacerbating the problem. It has increasingly been a bit of a vicious circle due to the number of new starters who've just straight up dropped out meaning we've gone into the busiest period of the year, and currently the busiest we've ever been, with staff trying to juggle staying on top of things with bringing new people up to speed. But that isn't the main factor.
Doesn't seem unique to us, one of my colleague's sister is a line manager for Tescos and has been saying similar apparently and family have been talking about the same kind of experiences where they work.
It is as much as anything the manner of it though - we've never had it in the past where so many people just straight up vanish, sometimes with a brief message - in previous years people have generally done a week or two before deciding it isn't for them, usually working to the end of their weeks rota before leaving.
That level of attrition is way too high for any job that people are voluntarily signing up for. Something is fundamentally wrong if more than half of the new joiners are leaving within a week. It must be horrendously inefficient and the existing staff trying to bring new people up to speed will get fed up and lose confidence in the process, just do the bare minimum because they think it is a waste of time, thus perpetuating the cycle.
Maybe the recruitment process isn't honest enough and people are getting the wrong expectations about what the job entails. Get people on the shop floor to refine the job specs to match reality and don't sugar-coat what you are needing people to do.
Maybe the recruitment process isn't honest enough and people are getting the wrong expectations about what the job entails. Get people on the shop floor to refine the job specs to match reality and don't sugar-coat what you are needing people to do.
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