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Soldato
Done
did it feel good?
No it felt pretty horrible actually lol.
Where I am now is a decent place and my manager and team are awesome.
But the actual role I'm in just isn't doing it for me (post sales account management), I gave it 6 months but being honest with myself it's not for me, I don't see much of a future for me carrying on in this type of role even though apparently I'm good at it.
I'm missing my old type of role (technical pre sales), and got offered something decent from somewhere that seem good so made sense.
I am quite sad about it for various reasons, but it's not worth staying somewhere just for the odd call and Slack/Teams banter with the team when you're not enjoying the actual job.
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Soldato
Absolutely understand! enjoying your job is so important as i have recently discovered , i left forklift driving after 10 years because it wasn’t waking up excited to go to work. My new career i actually love which i have never experienced before. The people and money are pretty great too
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I've left every job except my current one where I haven't been through a bonus cycle yet but bonuses weren't a significant factor in my decision to leave. The last two perm roles I've left have meant leaving potential bonuses on the table.
Pay rises are different however, pretty much every perm job I've left except one was off the back of getting inadequate basic salary.
Man of Honour
This is awkward.
I've been asked to provide a character reference for someone who failed their probation whilst I was their manager. I'm no longer at the company in question.
How on earth does one handle such a request in these circumstances?!
I've been asked to provide a character reference for someone who failed their probation whilst I was their manager. I'm no longer at the company in question.
How on earth does one handle such a request in these circumstances?!
Commissario
“All I can confirm is that this person worked for me from [date] to [date] and they did not successfully complete their probation period”.
I'd probably just ignore it.
I'm starting to get a little bit disillusioned at my current position. People are complaining about IT provision but all tickets are answered normally within an hour. After a bit of digging, it turned out that management were annoyed with something that doesn't actually even fall in to our department, but they just assumed it did. But now they've all got a bee in their bonnet with us and it just feels 'off'. There's also been a lot of staff leaving this past 6 months...
The other site I work at is a nightmare to get anything approved. The financial side is so frustrating and they have no idea of costings. Someone has also been complaining about me not being on site enough... They work from home three days a week lol. Turns out they were annoyed because they couldn't get a microphone working because it won't work if it's charging. Rather than phone me or message me on Teams, they just complained. Sigh.
Thinking I might use Christmas to spruce up my CV a bit.
The upsides are the benefits are excellent - good pension, free lunch two days a week WFH, safe job...
So no harm in putting some feelers out. I've put in an informal enquiry about a similar role to what I do now. Closer to home and more pay.
What I learned from my old job is don't be too loyal and know your worth.
The other site I work at is a nightmare to get anything approved. The financial side is so frustrating and they have no idea of costings. Someone has also been complaining about me not being on site enough... They work from home three days a week lol. Turns out they were annoyed because they couldn't get a microphone working because it won't work if it's charging. Rather than phone me or message me on Teams, they just complained. Sigh.
Thinking I might use Christmas to spruce up my CV a bit.
The upsides are the benefits are excellent - good pension, free lunch two days a week WFH, safe job...
So no harm in putting some feelers out. I've put in an informal enquiry about a similar role to what I do now. Closer to home and more pay.
What I learned from my old job is don't be too loyal and know your worth.
Associate
Depends. If they failed because they were a *****, stole from the company or something disreputable then I'd ignore.
If it was because they simply were not a good fit, company problem or just something 'meh' I'd write something short that you know is truthful. Eg Jane doe was a pleasant person during their time at XYZ. I no longer work for the company question as I work elsewhere now.
Don't make reference to performance or whatever just enough to basically confirm that the person worked there.
It could make a world of difference to that person and doesn't really impact you at all. But very much person by person. I've let plenty of people go on probation and try and help them out as typically gaps on CV are always difficult.
Man of Honour
He failed his probation because he was not good enough at his job. If he's still no good at his job I don't really want to help him get the same position and cause another company the same issues he caused our company.
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Don't reply then. That speaks volumes.
I think it's simpler just to settle up what you owe each year when you submit your SA and start afresh each FY rather than carry anything over either way.
Yeah you're right. I was pretty broke leaving last year though so 'took a loan' from HMRC. Now I've confused the hell out of this year lol. I guess I'll just do the maths on my bonus in isolation to get a rough idea.
Right. I think the simplest way to take a loan from hmrc during the year is reduce your estimated income on the hmrc portal. I don't think there is a downside except a big tax bill at the end of the year, but I may be wrong. Doesn't help you figure out your tax for this year though!
Soldato
So, have pretty much found myself in a situation where I’m being pushed out of a job by what I can only describe as perhaps the most blatant case of nepotism I’ve ever seen. Without giving too much away, I work for a company through an agency that provides maintenance services to an oil major in the UK, where I’ve been working since February.
Back in September, one of the bosses of the company I work for hired his daughter’s boyfriend, who has only just completed an apprenticeship in the industry I used to work in, without having any actual experience of doing the job, and nor does he have any experience whatsoever, save for the 6 weeks he’s spent on here so far, in this industry. So, with zero relevant experience, this guy’s been handed a highly paid, much sought after job that he’s not qualified for, and the only reason he’s got it that I can see is because he’s in a long term relationship with the bosses daughter.
Furthermore, and what really rubs salt in the wound, is that 3 members of our department, including myself, have just been told that this will be our last rotation, yet he seems to be being kept on. Would love to see the justification from the boss for keeping him over 3 members of staff who each have over 10 years relevant experience. The only reason I’ve kept my peace so far is that I may potentially get to comeback on ad-hoc work or to replace anybody else that leaves, but I’ll be honest, the injustice of this is just eating at me.
The oil major this company has a contract with has a compliance department, and their’s an email address to raise ethical concerns. I’m so tempted to report this.
Back in September, one of the bosses of the company I work for hired his daughter’s boyfriend, who has only just completed an apprenticeship in the industry I used to work in, without having any actual experience of doing the job, and nor does he have any experience whatsoever, save for the 6 weeks he’s spent on here so far, in this industry. So, with zero relevant experience, this guy’s been handed a highly paid, much sought after job that he’s not qualified for, and the only reason he’s got it that I can see is because he’s in a long term relationship with the bosses daughter.
Furthermore, and what really rubs salt in the wound, is that 3 members of our department, including myself, have just been told that this will be our last rotation, yet he seems to be being kept on. Would love to see the justification from the boss for keeping him over 3 members of staff who each have over 10 years relevant experience. The only reason I’ve kept my peace so far is that I may potentially get to comeback on ad-hoc work or to replace anybody else that leaves, but I’ll be honest, the injustice of this is just eating at me.
The oil major this company has a contract with has a compliance department, and their’s an email address to raise ethical concerns. I’m so tempted to report this.
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Classic case of its who you know, not what you know.
Soldato
Ahh good old nepotism. I know that all too well. Saw it happen time and time again.