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Soldato
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There's two junior lads on my team who continue to muck about at work (office environment).

One is constantly on his phone and my manager (also his manager) never seems to pick up on this. Such a waste of labour! I don't mind this so much as I know he can get bored and his work is being completed.

The other one comes in hungover quite often and falls asleep at his desk regularly (I'm talking a few times a week, he spent most of last Friday sleeping at his desk. Nurturing a hangover).

My dilemma is that I get on well with both of them and bringing it to my managers attention will almost certainly mean that they'll know it was me.

I'm working my backside off however and could do with the extra help that they could offer.

It's an SME and very realistically, their help will greatly contribute to the success (or indeed demise) of the company.

What would you do?

Just read this, a great article and must read for anyone

http://www.kent.ac.uk/careers/Choosing/career-satisfaction.htm

Great read, thanks.
 
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There's two junior lads on my team who continue to muck about at work (office environment).

One is constantly on his phone and my manager (also his manager) never seems to pick up on this. Such a waste of labour! I don't mind this so much as I know he can get bored and his work is being completed.

The other one comes in hungover quite often and falls asleep at his desk regularly (I'm talking a few times a week, he spent most of last Friday sleeping at his desk. Nurturing a hangover).

My dilemma is that I get on well with both of them and bringing it to my managers attention will almost certainly mean that they'll know it was me.

I'm working my backside off however and could do with the extra help that they could offer.

It's an SME and very realistically, their help will greatly contribute to the success (or indeed demise) of the company.

What would you do?


Great read, thanks.

Glad it was useful to someone else too :)

As for your query, tell them to get off their backside and cut the slack? :p Probably in a more implicit way than that, but there's a risk they may take it personally, depends what extra work you'll be asking them to do really.

But surely it will mean one of the guys won't have to be on his phone all the time, and as a result be more productive? It will only help them, you and the company in the long run.
 
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I'm totally spamming this thread but I don't care, it's been a busy but productive week.

We've got a really good sales director from our partner company, who really wants to join us. Took him through some more tonight and he's going to think of sales strategy against our business needs and talk monday.

Also, we've just received verbal confirmation from Arizona State University that they want to use our solution. And demo requests from 2 other universities and a college. I'm drinking bubbly right now in celebration to a tough but fruitful week.

What is it you sell? Software solutions?
 
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Interview on the phone with F5 networks in Seattle tomorrow, but had a demo request from a Uni at the exact same time. Annoying. Uni can't budge, so will see if F5 can.

Had a demo request from Columbia Uni, which is sweet. They'd be a great one to have on the books.
 
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There's two junior lads on my team who continue to muck about at work (office environment).

One is constantly on his phone and my manager (also his manager) never seems to pick up on this. Such a waste of labour! I don't mind this so much as I know he can get bored and his work is being completed.

The other one comes in hungover quite often and falls asleep at his desk regularly (I'm talking a few times a week, he spent most of last Friday sleeping at his desk. Nurturing a hangover).

My dilemma is that I get on well with both of them and bringing it to my managers attention will almost certainly mean that they'll know it was me.

I'm working my backside off however and could do with the extra help that they could offer.

It's an SME and very realistically, their help will greatly contribute to the success (or indeed demise) of the company.

What would you do?



Great read, thanks.

Have a word with them first, tell them you don't want to but you're going to have to say something to your manager if they don't stop leaving you with all the work to do?

Ok that'll mean if they don't change their ways they'll be 100% it was you that raised it with management, but screw them, you're adults in a workplace, you've done all you can to avoid escalating it, they continue to impact your life negatively so you've done what you need to do for your own sanity.


Anyway, while I'm here, here's my rant....

The Exec Board have just decided to invest in training our Collections agents in cross/up selling additional products. Literally trying to sell more stuff to people who don't pay for the services we already provide them. Madness.
 
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Cheers guys, really appreciate the advice. You sometimes get the feeling you're just being a goody goody but really I just can't stand idle time. It's an SME, there's always something to do.

Out of the blue I've had an agency contact me today with a potential job that's closer to home and offers a 48% pay rise, so very substantial.

I've got some of the info, the company, job role, salary (as above), locations etc. etc. but now the agnecy are asking me what salary I am on.

I don't really want to divulge that information as I don't want them to see it as a bargaining chip to bring the other salary down (which they usually do anyway).

Do you guys always give this info to the agency? Should I just lie and bring it closer to the salary offered in the new job? Of course I want to keep the agent sweet, but I don't want to play the wrong card.
 
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I totally want to fire people tonight. Our interns finish up Monday and have to test and push their last commits, but there is an error on the platform, which requires a nginx config change, stopping them doing it. The person responsible for doing this is a founder, and had a long week, so might not get to it until Sunday...
Like ****. I'm so close to losing my utter **** right now. Which **** paid for these interns? Oh, me. Who works 80-100hr weeks for the last 6 months? Me. He's got one ****ing job right now, he can do it.

And one of the interns is ****. Awful. I want to punch him in the throat. Hard.


I was going to go to bed but I'm tempted to open wine. I need wine.
 
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Had my first day with the guys from Redmond today - office is impressive, team seems great and I'm excited to get stuck in. Going to have to wait for a few systems etc and work my way through and length onboarding process first!
 
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Just worked out I'm being seriously boned by my boss.

We're meant to share on-call duties and allowance equally between us.

Worked out this year out of 11 weekends on call, I've only bloody covered 3! He's raking in the on call whilst I'm doing the grunt work.
 
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Ugh, where to start... :p

As some of you know, I run a business supplying hard-to-find parts and service bits etc for MG Rover models between 1995 and 2005.

We've recently become a specialist in the 75 and MG ZT models - and we've found there are several parts which have been unavailable for years that are either MOT failure items (bushes etc) or otherwise essential to have on the shelf (repair panels, bulb holders etc).
MG in China basically copied the 75 to make the MG7, so we've been working through their stock lists and finding parts which are cross-compatible - and having parts that aren't the same made up for us by plastic moulding companies over in China.

It's recently got to the point where I'll need a proper unit just to myself (we currently have 3 'corners' of friends units, and I use my garage too) and finding somewhere suitable is a nightmare.

No real point to this... just ugh. :D
 

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I just started a new job in the same industry, essentially for more money and security. My diary is filling up with all the aspects of the old job I hated and despite airing concerns about it, similar tasks keep coming.

Having spent about a year trying to sidestep out of this branch of the industry and not having any success, I'm feeling quite trapped and miserable.
 
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I just started a new job in the same industry, essentially for more money and security. My diary is filling up with all the aspects of the old job I hated and despite airing concerns about it, similar tasks keep coming.

Having spent about a year trying to sidestep out of this branch of the industry and not having any success, I'm feeling quite trapped and miserable.

Sorry about your situation - what was the motivation for leaving your old role? Did the new role/job offer seem to offer you more than you were expecting?
 
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Not at all. You could work for an MSP for example and have vastly different daily activities based on how well the company manages client relationships.

Last minute panics over outgoing customers, all-hands sessions to try and salvage a failing solution that was never specced properly in the first place, meetings where you all decide on what lie to tell a customer to prevent them from walking do not have to be part of working in that industry.
 
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