Don’t hold back your feelings. Anything else to say?
This is getting ridiculous (energy prices - Strictly NO referrals!)
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The government has announced 25% nuclear by 2050 so I wouldn't call that "dead".
Nuclear isn't about low cost, it's about price stability and energy security. Large scale battery storage technology is a pipe dream at the moment, like fusion it's always "just a few years away", on the other hand nuclear is a proven technology, and as France has demonstrated you can get a plant built in 4 years if you run a tight ship.
For some perspective on battery technology.
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Soldato
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Much better value to use it to charge up an electric car than sell it to the grid
Soldato
You done being a victim? You got called out and proven wrong. Then attacked someone for being a “labour voter”.
Are you alright mate?
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something looks off with these calculations to me..
Payback depends on how much of the Solar you use. As it cost you around 30p to import and you get around 4p for any export.
Using your numbers:
3648 kWh * 28.3429p / kWh = £1,034 if you use 100% of it.
100% is unrealistic without a battery, I used the link below to play with the numbers. I came to the conclusion that although it increases the cost a battery helps with payback. I can also charge it at 7p/kWh on Octopus go during the winter.
if you can divert as much spare generation to a car, battery or water heater and avoid export!
i am getting a system installed in about 2 weeks 4.5kw PV and 8.2 kwh battery for around £8.5K, payback won’t be significantly less than 10 years and I think electricity will be pushing 40p within a year or two.
https://www.solarguide.co.uk/solar-pv-calculator
Edit, I have just used the above and it suggests around £540 savings per year at 50% usage. So payback of around 10 years. Push the utilisation up and as the price per kWh increases payback is faster
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I'm not a victim but you seem very upset, had a bad day at work have you? I never attacked anyone, I'm defending myself from the abuse I'm getting..
Why aren't you coming up with solutions regarding energy, no you'd rather come after me.. Are you alright?
I've just played around with the energy saving trust's calculator and it says for a 5KW system it would cost approx £6,682 without battery storage, and would generate 4,352KWh of power which would would save me £1,277.32 a year on my current tariff and would pay itself off in 5.2 years if it had battery storage, the question is how much would battery storage cost? I'm at home most of the day in winter when my heating is on, so would just need it for summer really.
Hmm, so would possibly take about 8.5 years to pay itself back in that case.
The eddi diverts the solar power to my immersion water tank heater, which saves on gas usage. Heating water last year cost us about £10 per month, through the summer, so I expect £30 per month saving on gas , given the 3x price increase this year.
Charging the battery through the night at 7.5p will help during the low solar gen winter months, to use during the day.
Any surplus solar power will go into my car.
if I have any excess solar power after the above it gets exported to the Grid at 3p
Soldato
I’ve never really looked in to solar panels but my house uses a ridiculous amount of electric (10,000kWh/annum) and they’re now seeming more appealing.
The usage is pretty much 1kWh 24/7 so I don’t think we’d need battery storage to avoid wasting the energy from the panels but to create that amount of energy would I not need a giant roof for what is probably a large number panels?
How much energy would those panels produce over a year?
The usage is pretty much 1kWh 24/7 so I don’t think we’d need battery storage to avoid wasting the energy from the panels but to create that amount of energy would I not need a giant roof for what is probably a large number panels?
How much energy would those panels produce over a year?
Associate
What are running that it’s so high? ASHP?
About 6000 kWh, facing direct south with no shade.
Soldato
Mainly just a large number of things but we do have our own sewage treatment plant and hot water solar panels (previous house owner).
That would pay off my entire bill and then some, I only use around 5,000KWh of energy a year. Are you in the south?
Associate
you might want to look at cutting down if you can or improving efficiency that’s going to be almost £3k per year
Worcester, so mid, south
Soldato
I would not be jumping in on solar right now. Government grants on that sort of stuff is surely around the corner. Plus electric is not the major problem. It's gas !
Soldato
It was the current government that closed the FiT subsidies back in early 2019, why would they introduce something new, especially when the industry is currently booming thanks to the price rises over the last six months.
Soldato
This has been cut down already! Knocked 210w 24/7 off today by swapping out the pond pump to a more efficient/less powerful one.
I know it’s high but it is what the house/we use so looking for other options rather than paying 28p/kWh with it potentially going higher in October. Thought I’d look in to solar to see how long the payback time would be and if we would need to add battery storage or not.