This is getting ridiculous (energy prices - Strictly NO referrals!)

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior · 1 Sep 2022 at 09:47

Yeah there should be a proper review and fair compensation added for solar

Especially if they want to move away from SC and onto simple unit pricing.
That model doesnt then work well in that people with large solar arrays would end up a low users as far as the grid is concerned.

413x · 1 Sep 2022 at 09:49

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
We don't really know TBH.
Its not really hit yet and as such we don't know how the companies will react (historic was to move to PP meters) but thats not a quick process

If enough people don't/can't pay then the companies will struggle (they still need to pay for supply). The whole thing could come crashing down.

Yep.

What we know is it has to be paid.
You won't get the raw resources if you don't pay.

So at the end of the day the government will pay. Which means we (collective) will pay.

Who specifically pays? And that choice of Truss unfortunately so probably won't be the producers profits.

Which leaves the tories stuffed.
If they won't do more wind fall tax they will have to tax ordinary people.
And with the planned tax cuts that benefits the rich (the very rich) the most

So where's she going to get the money from?
Because she's giving to the rich and letting the poor suffer/die.

There won't be any tories left soon under 100k household income.

bigmike20vt · 1 Sep 2022 at 09:51

so i was interested to see what my new SEG rate would be as my old 4.1p one ended on 29th August.

I really cant complain about my energy, am on a sweet deal and barely use any grid electricity for 6 months of the year, but i was surprised to see my SEG roll over to 29th Aug 2023 still at 4.1p.

HungryHippos · 1 Sep 2022 at 09:53

You also don't get paid for solar generation until the official paperwork is approved, so yesterday I exported 5kwh of electric to the grid and will get zero for those units.

If it was the other way around you'd bet they'd be charging me for the units, day one, paperwork or none

Doobedoo · 1 Sep 2022 at 09:56

413x said:
Yeah it is I agree on that one!
Forces people to a battery.

So it should.

bigmike20vt · 1 Sep 2022 at 10:01

not 100% sure, but i think it may get backdated when you get your paperwork through ... so get ready for that juicy 20p

phill9800 · 1 Sep 2022 at 10:17

I was just wondering, for anyone on solar and on an export or feed in tariff, what are you payouts like for the electric you produce and export?

I recently had mine through as I registered with British Gas back when I had my solar installed back in 2017, I just wondered if anyone had better luck than I do with my tariff?

At present I get -

Generation - 4.84p/kWh
Export - 5.99p/kWh

I remember there being different prices when joining the tariff but I wondered if anyone with a different company gave more or less cash for the solar??

redfist · 1 Sep 2022 at 10:20

bigmike20vt said:
not 100% sure, but i think it may get backdated when you get your paperwork through ... so get ready for that juicy 20p

Hope so, since install in mid July we’ve exported in excess of 500kwh, still waiting for paperwork to come through. On a good note, since batteries have been installed our export has reduced dramatically

dl8860 · 1 Sep 2022 at 10:45

bigmike20vt said:
no idea sorry. Good news with octopus' fixed deals you can always drop out onto a different octopus tarrif if you decide the one you are on is not for you

Just switched over to Octopus but they wouldn't let me go onto the Octopus Go tariff without having an EV, he even went to go and triple check but came back an answer was no. Have swapped onto their variable (from bulb, currently also on variable) as I think they're a good company anyway. Bit miffed you are only allowed to go on amazing fixed tariff (40p day 7.5p night fixed for 12 months) if you're fortunate enough to own an EV already. Variable likely to be 54p day and 38p night come October :mad:

bigmike20vt · 1 Sep 2022 at 10:48

phill9800 said:
I was just wondering, for anyone on solar and on an export or feed in tariff, what are you payouts like for the electric you produce and export?

I recently had mine through as I registered with British Gas back when I had my solar installed back in 2017, I just wondered if anyone had better luck than I do with my tariff?

At present I get -

Generation - 4.84p/kWh
Export - 5.99p/kWh

I remember there being different prices when joining the tariff but I wondered if anyone with a different company gave more or less cash for the solar??

I get 4.1p export...... I could get better but then i would be paying more for my import... so for me i am in the right place.

bigmike20vt · 1 Sep 2022 at 10:51

dl8860 said:
Just switched over to Octopus but they wouldn't let me go onto the Octopus Go tariff without having an EV, he even went to go and triple check but came back an answer was no. Have swapped onto their variable (from bulb, currently also on variable) as I think they're a good company anyway. Bit miffed you are only allowed to go on amazing fixed tariff (40p day 7.5p night fixed for 12 months) if you're fortunate enough to own an EV already. Variable likely to be 54p day and 38p night come October

so this was a mostly pie in the sky chat i was having on an EV forum, but someone was selling a really old, and barely runnable electric car for under 4k. i cant remember the model... but the point of the discussion was if we should all club in and set it up as the forum mule, buy it, go onto Go, then sell it again at cost.

like i said was just a hypothetical chat and no one was serious, but i could imagine some people doing that.

phill9800 · 1 Sep 2022 at 10:54

bigmike20vt said:
I get 4.1p export...... I could get better but then i would be paying more for my import... so for me i am in the right place.

I was put on a tariff where they just gave me 50% of what I generated, I'd get in export whatever I actually exported might have been different but I still got 50%. Do you have that?

bigmike20vt · 1 Sep 2022 at 11:06

phill9800 said:
I was put on a tariff where they just gave me 50% of what I generated, I'd get in export whatever I actually exported might have been different but I still got 50%. Do you have that?

i am pre coffee so sorry if i am being thick but i dont follow... do you meant they gave you 50% of the kwh of energy you exported back for free on import when you need it? I do not have that. I think some states in the us do it, and it would be brilliant.

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior · 1 Sep 2022 at 11:07

bigmike20vt said:
i am pre coffee so sorry if i am being thick but i dont follow... do you meant they gave you 50% of the kwh of energy you exported back for free on import when you need it? I do not have that. I think some states in the us do it, and it would be brilliant.

Sounds like hes talking about FIT, that was assumed you export 50% no actuals taken into account

gpuerrilla · 1 Sep 2022 at 11:13

phill9800 said:
I was put on a tariff where they just gave me 50% of what I generated, I'd get in export whatever I actually exported might have been different but I still got 50%. Do you have that?

This might be the new SEG. I know that is similar in where I live.

Doobedoo · 1 Sep 2022 at 11:25

gpuerrilla said:
This might be the new SEG. I know that is similar in where I live.

I get 50% but it’s a fit payment which works out something like 17-18p kw

Troop · 1 Sep 2022 at 11:30

Yes its part of the FIT payment, I get 18.xxxp per unit generated + 50% of that number @ 5.xxxp deemed export.

Works out to 20-21p for every unit you generate via solar, in my case 3200-3500 a year ( pays 700-750 a year)

bigmike20vt · 1 Sep 2022 at 11:33

The FIT ended a number of years ago unfortunately.... Get yourself a battery and you can double dip then.

Troop · 1 Sep 2022 at 11:44

Battery + solar+ GO is a big winner, I manage to produce twice the number of Kw now via solar that I use yearly, so a net exporter.

phill9800 · 1 Sep 2022 at 11:49

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Sounds like hes talking about FIT, that was assumed you export 50% no actuals taken into account

I am indeed, sorry, trying to upgrade a system and talk doesn't do well for english.....

Doobedoo said:
I get 50% but it’s a fit payment which works out something like 17-18p kw

When roughly did you have your panels?? When mine where installed, the rates where terrible but the cost of the solar was a lot less compared to what it was previously...

Troop said:
Yes its part of the FIT payment, I get 18.xxxp per unit generated + 50% of that number @ 5.xxxp deemed export.

Works out to 20-21p for every unit you generate via solar, in my case 3200-3500 a year ( pays 700-750 a year)

When did you get your solar installed?? That's a damn good rate!!

bigmike20vt said:
The FIT ended a number of years ago unfortunately.... Get yourself a battery and you can double dip then.

Indeed it did, I think I was near the end of it finishing which I was lucky about... Wonder if I can find that table of prices for the tariff...

EDIT - I think it was something like this - FIT Tariff And you have the OFCOM one here