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As soon as something new comes out (Weeks before its released to buy) they play it to death. Commercial stations don't do it anywhere near as badly as Radio 1 do it, and there is a lot less R N B and stuff on commercial stations, but I like the DJ's on R1 :/
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As soon as something new comes out (Weeks before its released to buy) they play it to death. Commercial stations don't do it anywhere near as badly as Radio 1 do it, and there is a lot less R N B and stuff on commercial stations, but I like the DJ's on R1 :/
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Originally posted by wohoo
As for 1extra we have been here before, black music is less about color than peeps make out, it is a genre, big artists in garage are artful doger etc, they aint black n all that. An d lets face the white majority are pretty well catered for arent they? ffs show me a black man who listens to classic fm or R2 lol.
Well said. Also remember on BBC2 or whatever there is christian programmes, songs of praise etc. If a Sikh or Muslim prayer programme was put on im sure there would be an uproar aswell. To be honest, the edition of 1xtra and asian radio is just giving people what they want, dedicated channels for music they like, hell I love MTV Base, I dont have to listen to other crap like travis, coldplay simply because im not into that.
As for Bend It Like Beckham, you would be surprised how accurate some of it is. For example the relationship with different colours, that attitude is still going strong but mainly because of the older generations with dated views.
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Just like to say guys that i don't condem the lauch of 1extra, i was mearly tryin to point out the way that PC seems to work from my point of view.
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TBH I dont even think its a PC issue. There are numerous channels that caters for all sections of the community as mentioned before, if there wasnt a demand for such a channel, it would shut down pretty quick.
Im willing to bet that there is probably a greater demand for a black music channel than for a Welsh channel in England yet we have both. I mean what does England want a radio station from another country for, you could ask.
Its like havin the god channel on sky, just catering for different needs.
I hate radio in this country anyway we are so limited, everytime i go abroad i get so many diff radio station each catering for different genres.
I have just found out that 1 extra is only on digital, so why u think `black` music should be taken off radio one i dont know
Hell i hate cheesy pop rubbish, no one is forcing me to listen to it, and u know what i do, turn the damn radio over, instead of getting heated up about it.
I hate radio in this country anyway we are so limited, everytime i go abroad i get so many diff radio station each catering for different genres.
I have just found out that 1 extra is only on digital, so why u think `black` music should be taken off radio one i dont know
Hell i hate cheesy pop rubbish, no one is forcing me to listen to it, and u know what i do, turn the damn radio over, instead of getting heated up about it.
Originally posted by wohoo
I have just found out that 1 extra is only on digital, so why u think `black` music should be taken off radio one i dont know
It's got its own dedicated channel yet 75% of playtime on Radio 1 is dedicated to the same music. Regardless of whats on the Playlist - many songs played are not on that list so I'm not sure what, if any, value it has.
I've explained why I listen, the DJ's (Mark and Lard and Chris Moyles) are so good, I put up with the music.
But what dictates how popular a song is?. You'll hear a song on the radio well before it's out in the shops.
As I explained above radio 1 still has to cater for all tastes, some more than others, because DAB is yet to replace analogue (and prolly never will).
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A lot of music in one form or another is derived from black music. Rock is essentially blues based, and the great founding fathers of rock were either inspired by black musicians or were black musicians.
I know it has little to do with some of the pap that is on the radio now, soul with no soul, R'n'B with no blues etc but the black connection is all around.
Indian music - well the beatles were digging that years ago with Ravi... and I for one also wish more Bhangra is aired
If you love music, you dont listen to the radio - you listen to the tunes you like when you like. Radio certainly has its place, no doubt about that. It has the footy on when you dont have sky
I know it has little to do with some of the pap that is on the radio now, soul with no soul, R'n'B with no blues etc but the black connection is all around.
Indian music - well the beatles were digging that years ago with Ravi... and I for one also wish more Bhangra is aired
If you love music, you dont listen to the radio - you listen to the tunes you like when you like. Radio certainly has its place, no doubt about that. It has the footy on when you dont have sky
Oh God here we go.
x foreverMost race crimes are in the south. The south was pro-slave during the Civil war. So states like Texas, Alabama etc there are race problems. But up north there is by far much less. In the US is is quite offensive to fly the Confederate flag because that was the flag of the south during the Civil War.
There is more poverty amongst black communities but that is for several reasons. Gangs are quite popular amongst black communities as well which could relate to the lack of education thus not being able to get jobs.
Black people being sent to jail does not immediatly mean its a race hatred arrest. Because of the more black people are in gangs and on the streets there are more black people commiting crimes. Crimes land people in jail.
Originally posted by wohoo
Also its quite amusing how this thread has turned into the typical anti pc thread, ronin was praising britain for its multi culturism, lol
Amusing indeed, we went from praising Britain's multi culturism to anti-pc rubbish, then to an analysis of chart music all the way over to the Ku Klux Clan.
LOL
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I would like to point out that the only problem that has been pointed out in that thread is a white to asian/black predjudice.
Having been friends with several black and indian families and some biggot families, I can safely say it is a multiple way affair and not all white vs rest of world.
I must also admit I have skimmed over this ocuk thread
Having been friends with several black and indian families and some biggot families, I can safely say it is a multiple way affair and not all white vs rest of world.
I must also admit I have skimmed over this ocuk thread
Soldato
OK here is my theory on everybody v whites.
The main problem stems down to the older generations who came into western countries hoping to prosper and set down good grounds for the future generations. They came over with hardly nothing apart from their beliefs and culture which was directly targetted by the natives of the country. You werent allowed to work here because you were brown, or you had to cut your hair to work here etc. etc. But they still managed to get through it and manage to find work. Now when they bring up their own children and educate them of the ways of society, they are afraid of them becoming "westernised" and forgetting their beliefs. Parents see this oppurtunity to educate them that they shouldnt mix with whites etc. This also leads to the problem of segregation and the generations born here but taught to dislike others is not helped with groups like NF and BNP. They are the ones fueling the older generations hatred for those races.
What I and im sure many others try to do is find a good balance with integration, I have decided to make up my own mind and opinions and have kept all my beliefs as well as maintain a diverse range in the friends I have.
I do witness young people who do forget their beliefs in favour of western customs but I see this as not a problem with the west but simply the education of the children of their own beliefs. As that is what is lacking with ethnics brought up here.
The main problem stems down to the older generations who came into western countries hoping to prosper and set down good grounds for the future generations. They came over with hardly nothing apart from their beliefs and culture which was directly targetted by the natives of the country. You werent allowed to work here because you were brown, or you had to cut your hair to work here etc. etc. But they still managed to get through it and manage to find work. Now when they bring up their own children and educate them of the ways of society, they are afraid of them becoming "westernised" and forgetting their beliefs. Parents see this oppurtunity to educate them that they shouldnt mix with whites etc. This also leads to the problem of segregation and the generations born here but taught to dislike others is not helped with groups like NF and BNP. They are the ones fueling the older generations hatred for those races.
What I and im sure many others try to do is find a good balance with integration, I have decided to make up my own mind and opinions and have kept all my beliefs as well as maintain a diverse range in the friends I have.
I do witness young people who do forget their beliefs in favour of western customs but I see this as not a problem with the west but simply the education of the children of their own beliefs. As that is what is lacking with ethnics brought up here.
stiff: im not saying ku klux klan is active, i am saying that there is still some racial "aware" people in the states. yes there are these individuals all over europe too, but not at that extent. what i am saying is that it takes quite a time for the people of a country to embrace different cultures. i also dont understand why the south is still so far behind in such subjects, is there any particular reason for that that you know of?
is, lets say, the son of a pakistani family, who was born and lived all his live in the uk, an english or a pakistani?
is, lets say, the son of a pakistani family, who was born and lived all his live in the uk, an english or a pakistani?
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So why bother with it if R1 plays it as well?
Bet folks will moan that stuff like bhangra is getting aired now
Of course not, becuase it isn't played to death every second of the day. It's a fresh decent song which they don't flog to death.
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